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California Assault Weapon Registration

russ69 said:
Guns would have been completed per the finish date in the new law, I can't recall what that is from memory. Lowers without an upper are not AWs. So at this point you cannot buy uppers for them because you would be assembling an AW and that isn't allowed. Make sense?
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I believe you can still buy uppers in CA because an upper is not considered a firearm. However, I don't know how that fits in with your observation of construction. Anyone have a definitive answer for this?
 
russ69 said:
Guns would have been completed per the finish date in the new law, I can't recall what that is from memory. Lowers without an upper are not AWs. So at this point you cannot buy uppers for them because you would be assembling an AW and that isn't allowed. Make sense?
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Not really.

All these rifles have uppers in 5.56 or 7.62 caliber and purchased prior to last year, but I also have a 22LR upper that I use for plinking.

So technically they are AW, and if I put a 22LR upper on them I don't think that changes anything. <--- may be wrong about this
 
Climber said:
How long before they come after our semi-auto pistols with removable magazines next?

I wonder how secure their database is for this registry, it could serve as a shopping list for potential thieves.
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This.

Remember when some journalists published the names and addresses of CCW holders?

They try one way, then another, to clamp down on the Second Amendment.
 
mrzuzzo said:
Not really.

All these rifles have uppers in 5.56 or 7.62 caliber and purchased prior to last year, but I also have a 22LR upper that I use for plinking.

So technically they are AW, and if I put a 22LR upper on them I don't think that changes anything. <--- may be wrong about this
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Not sure...

.22 LR upper + non-registered lower = no BB necessary, though you're still restricted to 10 round mags. I may be a bit out of date on this info too - it's gotten fairly overwhelming trying to keep up with the plethora of back-and-forth new laws / lawsuits and what currently applies / doesn't apply. So with no BB necessary, no registration necessary.
 
Ridley said:
I believe you can still buy uppers in CA because an upper is not considered a firearm. However, I don't know how that fits in with your observation of construction. Anyone have a definitive answer for this?
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Yes. Register-able assault weapons had to be bought in a certain time window. You must have fully assembled or purchased the qualifying firearm during that period of time. Uppers are not firearms but an assault weapon must be a fully assembled firearm. When the uppers and lowers are separated, it is not an AW. If you have a registered AW, the lower is registered as the AW but there is a discrepancy in the law that says if it is not assembled or has a 22LR upper it isn't a AW but it will still show up in the system as being a AW. Clear enough :teeth

You'll need this: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
 
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Ridley said:
If it was an "assault weapon" registered the first time around then the state should have issued the proper paperwork to the individual registering the "assault weapon".

If your just asking tongue in cheek then that is the million dollar question with regards to individuals remembering when and where they purchased as that is required information for registration. The interesting thing will be if someone tries to register an "assault weapon" they purchased in 2009 (before long gun registration began in 2014) and the state comes back and tells them they have entered the wrong date and seller info on their registration form. The state wasn't supposed to have this type of info before 2014, and it wasn't a requirement of purchase so how the hell could they hold someone responsible/deny registration because of it.

I really hope the current lawsuit gets this shut down...but I won't hold my breath with the 2A unfriendly courts in CA. I'm just glad I don't have an "assault weapon" because I wouldn't want to deal with this cluster f$@k.
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Well, I know that ATF has this info, if you are original buyer, so DOJ is just fucking with people if they say they need it.
 
I'd really like to hear what Ivan chesnokov have to say about all this
 
enki said:
Well, I know that ATF has this info, if you are original buyer, so DOJ is just fucking with people if they say they need it.
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The ATF does NOT have that info either, having that info would be illegal. However the ATF, or any law enforcement agency in the nation for that matter, can get that info with some footwork. They take a weapon, get the SN, go to the manufacturer and figure out the chain of custody from there. Manufacturer to distributor to gun shop to the first person who purchased the weapon, and that is as far as it's supposed to go. CA changed that with registration of long guns in 2014.
 
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It's pretty lame we have to spend $$ to make these featureless (if one doesn't want to register) then in a couple years the law changes and that $$ is lost.

To go featureless it's at least $100 I'd say. Adding a brake, grip wrap and pinning stock.

An FRS15 stock, which is surprisingly comfortable, is $140 but it does take care of the grip and non-adjutable aspect.
 
Keep in mind you had to add bullet buttons too to begin with. Then they got banned / forced to register which was more additional costs.
 
Dubbington said:
It's pretty lame we have to spend $$ to make these featureless (if one doesn't want to register) then in a couple years the law changes and that $$ is lost.

To go featureless it's at least $100 I'd say. Adding a brake, grip wrap and pinning stock.

An FRS15 stock, which is surprisingly comfortable, is $140 but it does take care of the grip and non-adjutable aspect.
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Doesn't take care of the grip... wut

also, you can go significantly cheaper than $100. $40 for a Featureless Arms grip, I'm pretty sure I've seen stock pinning kits for $10 or so, thread protector $10 or so is $60 total - and that's using the most comfortable grip option that I've tried. Yes, you can spend more on a muzzle device if you want, but you don't have to.

You could instead buy some kydex and DIY a grip fin, and cut that $60 in half.
 
Seekins fin grip is around $15, stock pin is a drill bit and a roll pin, thread protector is like $10. Or a cheap muzzle brake for $30ish.
 
Junkie said:
Doesn't take care of the grip... wut

also, you can go significantly cheaper than $100. $40 for a Featureless Arms grip, I'm pretty sure I've seen stock pinning kits for $10 or so, thread protector $10 or so is $60 total - and that's using the most comfortable grip option that I've tried. Yes, you can spend more on a muzzle device if you want, but you don't have to.

You could instead buy some kydex and DIY a grip fin, and cut that $60 in half.
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RRR70 said:
Seekins fin grip is around $15, stock pin is a drill bit and a roll pin, thread protector is like $10. Or a cheap muzzle brake for $30ish.
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I'm not sold on grip wraps. I don't like how it feels the rifle is barely in my hand. The FRS 15 Thordsen is great, comfortable, and you can actually grasp it with your trigger hand. I've seen several setup for 3 Gun.
 
Junkie said:
Doesn't take care of the grip... wut

also, you can go significantly cheaper than $100. $40 for a Featureless Arms grip, I'm pretty sure I've seen stock pinning kits for $10 or so, thread protector $10 or so is $60 total - and that's using the most comfortable grip option that I've tried. Yes, you can spend more on a muzzle device if you want, but you don't have to.

You could instead buy some kydex and DIY a grip fin, and cut that $60 in half.
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You have to pay money to make your firearm harder to manipulate and less ergonomic.... Pass.
 
I know this guy Will who started https://resurgentarms.com

He just finished his injection molds and products should ship in Nov.

Saw the grips in person and they seemed better than wraps or hammerhead.
$35
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mrzuzzo said:
You have to pay money to make your firearm harder to manipulate and less ergonomic.... Pass.
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Speaking of which...I think it's been discussed before, but what does anyone think about the prospects of an ADA lawsuit regarding overly restrictive California laws violating 2A rights of persons with certain disabilities?

It would be nice to find a good test case as a means of throwing all these evil features/ban lists out as being unconstitutional.
 
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