Psyclotron
dance magic dance
hey don't call your friend retarded, that's just not cricket
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Close one on Pinehurst - another effing M4M thread/rant
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hey don't call your friend retarded, that's just not cricket
Moike
Shit Magnet
Go ahead...
mike23w
Giggity
I never said and never implied in any way you were divine.
Learn to read.
What are you doing here?
Defending your buddy?
What are you defending exactly?
B-Cuz
Honorably Discharged
DING DING DING!!!!!!!!
You're ignorant, admit it. No matter how experienced a driver/rider/cyclist whoever is, they should never find themselves in a Russian-roulette situation with some asshole out for shits and giggles.
flying_hun
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Let's be clear. Your boy came on here. Good first step. Second, he posted some pretty lame rationalizations for his behavior, indicating that he hasn't really owned up to his choices. I responded to those. Third, he disappeared, except for a post from his account; him or some very delusional friend of his. He hasn't responded to me. He hasn't contacted me. He hasn't done anything but try to make this go away.
When I said I wouldn't hold a grudge, that's for my benefit, not his. He's not worth my investment for any other purpose than to either get his behavior changed dramatically, or to get him off the road.
Here's a question for you. Is behavior a reflection of character?
Psyclotron
dance magic dance
He is awfully defensive about that, huh. Homeboy must have multiple personality psychosis.
Charmed
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Wow...Best of BARF for sure.
Kurt, just know that if you had bought it during this incident, I would consider myself lucky to have spent time with you at Mystery Camp, and REALLY pissed that we didn't get that ride in Marin that weekend
Basically, just really glad you're still here, man
See you soon!
Kurt, just know that if you had bought it during this incident, I would consider myself lucky to have spent time with you at Mystery Camp, and REALLY pissed that we didn't get that ride in Marin that weekend
Basically, just really glad you're still here, man
See you soon!
Baptistro
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So why not be a really good friend and tell him to stop driving like a tool before he kills someone, kills himself, or ends up in jail? Or is that not what your friends do for each other?
clutchslip
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Yep. Thread is in N.C. only - NO, not North Carolina.
I believe it is a reflection.
That is why I am making contact with the Z guys, too.
Cheyenne
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Wow. Well, there has been a lot said. Lots of stories of the danger. I would like to remind you all:
What we do is dangerous. Probably more than you realize, in spite of all the RIP threads.
Some of you who are longtime riders, and are better riders than I, nevertheless have an attitude that does not seem to fully take into account your participation in the danger.
When someone comes around a corner in my lane, it's MY responsibility to "fix" the situation. Being angry about it afterwords is pointless. Spend that energy on analyzing what you could have done better...because there WILL be a next time.
Nothing else matters. Fault, intent, responsibility, legality, douchebaggery...it's all a distraction from the physical reality.
For me, when a driver attempts to kill me, my evasion and analysis thereof are the best opportunities to fine tune the most important of skills. I don't have time to waste on the douche, I need to work on saving myself again NEXT TIME.
What we do is dangerous. Probably more than you realize, in spite of all the RIP threads.
Some of you who are longtime riders, and are better riders than I, nevertheless have an attitude that does not seem to fully take into account your participation in the danger.
When someone comes around a corner in my lane, it's MY responsibility to "fix" the situation. Being angry about it afterwords is pointless. Spend that energy on analyzing what you could have done better...because there WILL be a next time.
Nothing else matters. Fault, intent, responsibility, legality, douchebaggery...it's all a distraction from the physical reality.
For me, when a driver attempts to kill me, my evasion and analysis thereof are the best opportunities to fine tune the most important of skills. I don't have time to waste on the douche, I need to work on saving myself again NEXT TIME.
Moike
Shit Magnet
In the event where the douche is a known entity, correction of aforementioned douche's driving habits and respect for the rules of the road can go a long way to ensure there is not a 'NEXT TIME' for you or someone without your level of skill at vehicular avoidance.
Putting an end to a mild annoyance before it turns into a major catastrophe with fatal results does not seem like time wasted.
Moike
Shit Magnet
I registered an account, oddly it was approved... I'll post it.
yes he disappeared maybe becuase everyone was talking when really it should be you who is talking. no offense. i believe he said he will be out there to meet people on saturday but i gotta double check..
please enlighten me on my ignorance.. i know i rider should never have to do that i was saying im glad he was able to becuase i wouldnt wanna hear my friend killed someone....someone said if i was a good friend shouldnt i tell him not to drive like that. the answer really isnt that simple becuase no matter what you tell a friend they will do what they want to do.
you say i cant read lol..look at your last post before this .. saying you asshole and you douchebags think your divine your implying im part of them
Desmodromic
Captain Slow
Just in case you (other members of my parents paid for my car "racing" team) if you cross double yellow the same laws of mortality applies!!!
1.) He almost killed someone by crossing double yellow (on purpose)
2.) You pubic hairs also cross double yellow on purpose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzQeHqsY72s
Btw, how many girls have you gotten to sleep with you (all) with your best "imitation" from Best Motoring?
3.) Gives us a load of shit for an apology and then justifies his actions and offers nothing it terms of changing his DY crossing antics
4.) The guy he almost killed tried to confront your spineless friend and didn't man up. Oh and you guys have other run-ins with other driver/riders!
5.) When you fuck up, Don't sit here and try and make little of it (killed is the key word). If divz or any of you feel truly sorry, none of you would be here trying to defend and deflect.
6.) Man up and take it... all of you. If you and your club house friends (oh this goes esp for Mr. SCCA/WWE member) want to find comfort and respect, why don't you guys go back to your forum. Oh, WAIT. They don't like you guys either... even before all this happened.
http://define-spec.com/forum/showthread.php?t=198&highlight=Divine&page=6
7.) He said he wants to go have a chat with Connie (and others that cares to join) Saturday. Go have the chat.
8.) If the other barf posts have not made it clear but we eat our own if such brainless things do happen! Let me remind you again that the subject is DY crossing retard actions that would have taken a life. If one of our own -Kurt- had not done everything in his power to avoid a delusional driver, he would be dead. <---Is this clear enough for you (all)?! STOP CROSSING DY as a form of DRIVING/RIDING TECHNIQUE!!!!!!!
1.) He almost killed someone by crossing double yellow (on purpose)
2.) You pubic hairs also cross double yellow on purpose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzQeHqsY72s
Btw, how many girls have you gotten to sleep with you (all) with your best "imitation" from Best Motoring?
3.) Gives us a load of shit for an apology and then justifies his actions and offers nothing it terms of changing his DY crossing antics
4.) The guy he almost killed tried to confront your spineless friend and didn't man up. Oh and you guys have other run-ins with other driver/riders!
Okay, I've read all the way through this thread, some of the thread that Connie started on the Z forum, and I've read divz's posts.
First things first. To all my fellow BARF'ers, and a few in particular, thank you very much for the way you've all rallied here. Once again, BARF delivers.
Divz, I've read your apology/explanation/rationalization, and while it's nice that you've posted up, my feeling is that there's something missing.
I don't know what preceded my contact with you and that Miata, but I did see what happened in that corner. He didn't brake check you. He saw me - since we were in the same lane - got scared, and checked up. I saw the look on his face. He didn't hit the brakes all that hard. You must have already been closing pretty fast. Your explanation does not ring entirely true.
It's difficult to believe that our close call had much impact on you. Once I finally got turned around and caught up to you, you were in the midst of a big old doughnut at the turn off to Moraga. It seems like odd behavior for someone who might be concerned or rattled at the prospect of having nearly killed another person as the result of his own dangerous driving.
When I caught up to you again heading back south on Pinehurst, you were driving slowly, but appeared to ignore my best attempts to get your attention while at the same time talking on the cellphone. I followed you the length of Pinehurst twice. If you wanted to man up, this was the time to do it. It's difficult to believe that you did not know I was following you. What were you thinking?
The information that has shown up in this thread as a result of the good works of BARF detectives suggests that behavior I encountered is the norm, not the exception. This could suggest a couple of things, none of them complimentary to you. Either you are too immature to imagine the impact your choices can have on the lives of others, or you don't really care. With those inferences in mind, and Andy's questions to you in mind as well, tell us how you are going to change. Tell us what is motivating those changes. Tell us how we'll know. If you want to impress us, here's your chance.
Forgiveness is a wonderful thing. I have no intention of investing my life in hating you. Fortunately for me, I've got that choice, no thanks to you. I'm upright and breathing, not in the ground. I have the use of all my limbs and without pain or titanium hardware, unlike Dave. From me, forgiveness is cheap, but I still want to see you off the road.
Forgetting is another thing. Why would I forget? If you want me to forget, provide some new memories of Divz and his "crew" that would replace the ones I have now. Posting in a web forum is a start, but not exactly sufficient.
I can tell you one thing, the past three days I rode hundreds of miles of twisties, and my memory of you was present on every blind turn.
5.) When you fuck up, Don't sit here and try and make little of it (killed is the key word). If divz or any of you feel truly sorry, none of you would be here trying to defend and deflect.
6.) Man up and take it... all of you. If you and your club house friends (oh this goes esp for Mr. SCCA/WWE member) want to find comfort and respect, why don't you guys go back to your forum. Oh, WAIT. They don't like you guys either... even before all this happened.
http://define-spec.com/forum/showthread.php?t=198&highlight=Divine&page=6
7.) He said he wants to go have a chat with Connie (and others that cares to join) Saturday. Go have the chat.
8.) If the other barf posts have not made it clear but we eat our own if such brainless things do happen! Let me remind you again that the subject is DY crossing retard actions that would have taken a life. If one of our own -Kurt- had not done everything in his power to avoid a delusional driver, he would be dead. <---Is this clear enough for you (all)?! STOP CROSSING DY as a form of DRIVING/RIDING TECHNIQUE!!!!!!!
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B-Cuz
Honorably Discharged
Okay, let me break it down for you barney-style then. you say:
Which gives the implication that it was the OP rider's responsibility to avoid the oncoming vehicle, a vehicle that happened to be involved in an ILLEGAL street race and attempts to make a pass using the opposing traffic lane.
If you are as good a friend so you title yourself, you would be a bit more forceful that your "buddies" foolish acts WILL kill someone. Perhaps not today, this week, month, year, or decade, but it behooves you to open your eyes that it's only a matter of time.
wow so luck means that its his responsiblity? i was simply saying im glad the OP could avoid my friends driving.. never said it was his responsbility to be able to...like i said i cant make him do shit .. you cant make anyone do something ..
Moike
Shit Magnet
You'd be surprised...
B-Cuz
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