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Coal Rolling?

so? same grill for all the Chevy models

2500 for the dodge and chevy are a little bulkier then the 1500s, almost the same look but not quite. its hard to tell in pictures but sitting on the lot you could tell.
 

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The funny thing is, if they added some air to all that wasted fuel it'd be instant hp. So much wasted fuel... The fact that its smoking so much with no load just shows how much the tune is out of whack. MOAR Turbo!

That is with the use of a smoke switch. On Dodges, you run a toggle to the MAF and shut it off, tricking the ECU into a super rich condition. On Fords you run the toggle to the VGT and it shuts the VGT off creating a rich condition. It doesn't constantly run like that.

A properly tuned diesel will puff black smoke at the instant the thottle is opened and then it should disappear because the a/f ratio should be neutralized.

Also, that Welder Up rat rod has been around for ever.
 
That's an awfully heavy motor.

Your 6.2, will, incidentally, fit better in my Kaiser than a 12V, and they make transmission adapters for that one.

Find yer 12v and we'll do two engine swaps in a weekend.

She'll carry it, no problem. :)

6.2 weighs about 800#, and the 6bt clocks in at #1k ready to rumble. The 200 pounds isn't going to make much difference to this truck.
 
So, when I posted this, one part of me, the logical side of me, thought 'this is fucking retarded and these guys are half wit morons.' But then the side of me that always likes to take the contrarian point of view kinda took a perverse enjoyment out of how many heads were exploding on all these lib web sites about it. Which made me think this was is epic real world trolling. You can hate the game, but still have respect for the genius of the player.

I can see this but dumping that crap on bike riders is pretty much assault. I dig the statement but not abusing other people.
 
I think its funny to call truck grilles vulgar. They aren't Miatas, they are trucks. They communicate their function quite well. Its an industrial design look.

And I still think motorcycle burnouts are frickin obnoxious in the same ways as the coal-rolling. And even more pointless.
 
I think its funny to call truck grilles vulgar. They aren't Miatas, they are trucks. They communicate their function quite well. Its an industrial design look.

They're for guys who are compensating for something.

"I gotta have a big grill, so I can be the man and scare people out of my way"

Meanwhile there's 2 feet of empty space around the motor.
 
They're for guys who are compensating for something.

"I gotta have a big grill, so I can be the man and scare people out of my way"

Meanwhile there's 2 feet of empty space around the motor.
I thought it was so they could run into stuff and keep going! I can't remember if it was here on this Forum or on a tv show that someone was reflecting how expensive front end collisions are because there is so much up front to be damaged....

Really curious about the new aluminum f-150s. People count on American trucks taking "punches" in the course of the workday.
 
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They're for guys who are compensating for something.

"I gotta have a big grill, so I can be the man and scare people out of my way"

Meanwhile there's 2 feet of empty space around the motor.

You should probably tell the big three that you can help engineer their next batch of product. Which holiday inn did you stay at?
 
Medium duty? I thought a 1 ton pickup was still considered light duty.

Fair point. Although the towing capabilities of your typical diesel-powered truck in the 3/4 and 1-ton classes these days matches the capabilities of the medium-duty 1.25 and 1.5 ton trucks from only 5-7 years ago. It's crazy.

You use the same argument about gasoline octane ratings.
The companies selling this crap are shoving commercials down everyone's fucking throat about needing this much octane to use your new powerful car (or truck), or needing this much power to tow your big-assed boat. Will a medium-duty truck pull a trailered boat? Up a steep hill? In summer?
The bigger the motor, the easier it'll be, period.

Why is it that people are stupid for doing nothing more than responding to a never-ending barrage of information that they need to weed through and verify sources for before believing? Oh no, my motor is more powerful than I need, whatever will I do, I'm so stupid.

I never said they were stupid. I just think it's funny that it's nothing more than a sales tactic. My 5.0 V8 F-150 pulled an 11,000 pound trailer all over southern California and Arizona while returning 13-16 MPG. It had more than enough power to climb hills at illegal speeds and always passed with solid performance. Consider that the majority of the trucks that we sell systems for are 475-500HP/1200-2000 ft-lb of torque heavy-duty engines. These Class 5-8 trucks are pulling upwards of 80,000+ lbs for thousands upon thousands of miles. The big three are taking engines that produce roughly only a third less power and wedging them into a 3/4 ton class 2 light-duty pickup. Ridiculousness doesn't even begin to describe it. Why in the hell would any educated consumer spend $50-60,000 on a truck to do work that a $25,000 truck can do all day while costing far less to own and operate? :dunno

There's a reason I don't work in the marking industry. I don't profess to be a salesman. I think this entire diesel engine power war is nothing more than a marketing ploy. There might be 100 customers out of 100,000 that actually could use the F-350's being sold today to their potential. The rest I can only assume don't want to be caught dead in a 400HP F-150 towing their 26-foot weekender trailer. In the end, it's their money, do what you want. But you're not going to fool anyone that understands this industry from the technical side. You bought way more truck than you needed to tow.
 
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They're for guys who are compensating for something.

"I gotta have a big grill, so I can be the man and scare people out of my way"

Meanwhile there's 2 feet of empty space around the motor.

LOL! You ever see under the hood of a modern diesel pickup? You need to pull the cab off the truck to do anything but an oil change. They are big to allow for airflow to the coolers right behind them.

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I think its funny to call truck grilles vulgar. They aren't Miatas, they are trucks. They communicate their function quite well. Its an industrial design look.

They don't. They make them as massive and intimidating as possible. They could get proper airflow with less grill space, and slope the hood for better mileage and so the operator could actually see.
 
Fair point. Although the towing capabilities of your typical diesel-powered truck in the 3/4 and 1-ton classes these days matches the capabilities of the medium-duty 1.25 and 1.5 ton trucks from only 5-7 years ago. It's crazy.



I never said they were stupid. I just think it's funny that it's nothing more than a sales tactic. My 5.0 V8 F-150 pulled an 11,000 pound trailer all over southern California and Arizona while returning 13-16 MPG. It had more than enough power to climb hills at illegal speeds and always passed with solid performance. Consider that the majority of the trucks that we sell systems for are 475-500HP/1200-2000 ft-lb of torque heavy-duty engines. These Class 5-8 trucks are pulling upwards of 80,000+ lbs for thousands upon thousands of miles. The big three are taking engines that produce roughly only a third less power and wedging them into a 3/4 ton class 2 light-duty pickup. Ridiculousness doesn't even begin to describe it. Why in the hell would any educated consumer spend $50-60,000 on a truck to do work that a $25,000 truck can do all day while costing far less to own and operate? :dunno

There's a reason I don't work in the marking industry. I don't profess to be a salesman. I think this entire diesel engine power war is nothing more than a marketing ploy. There might be 100 customers out of 100,000 that actually could use the F-350's being sold today to their potential. The rest I can only assume don't want to be caught dead in a 400HP F-150 towing their 26-foot weekender trailer. In the end, it's their money, do what you want. But you're not going to fool anyone that understands this industry from the technical side. You bought way more truck than you needed to tow.

What Moto do you ride?
 
LOL! You ever see under the hood of a modern diesel pickup? You need to pull the cab off the truck to do anything but an oil change. They are big to allow for airflow to the coolers right behind them.

engine.jpg

lol i was just gonna post a pic of my 24v. lol 2 feet?
 

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Don't hate on some thing just because you don't have a use for it

No, I hate on poor design. The rambox that dodge likes to brag about is only because no one under 7' tall can reach into the bed. There is no need for the average hauler to be that high. It just means i have to climb into the bed way more often.
 
Why in the hell would any educated consumer spend $50-60,000 on a truck to do work that a $25,000 truck can do all day while costing far less to own and operate? :dunno.
Cuz bling, yo

There's a reason I don't work in the marking industry. I don't profess to be a salesman. I think this entire diesel engine power war is nothing more than a marketing ploy. There might be 100 customers out of 100,000 that actually could use the F-350's being sold today to their potential. The rest I can only assume don't want to be caught dead in a 400HP F-150 towing their 26-foot weekender trailer. In the end, it's their money, do what you want. But you're not going to fool anyone that understands this industry from the technical side. You bought way more truck than you needed to tow.

Bam.
 
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