Draggin jeans: Anyone fall down in them.???

[Ready to Ride]

I have and use moto specific Kevlar over pants with armor (Cycleport) 99% of the time when riding. I recently shopped for a pair of riding jeans to use instead of regular jeans the 1% of the time when I'm just running local errands, etc.

As with all gear I think fit and armor quality are most important. Ended up ordering some Scorpion Covert riding jeans with SAS knee and hip armor. They have Kevlar linings that cover completely from the waist to below the knees. The armor is easily externally removable and the fit is good enough that I think (hope) the armor will stay in the right place. They will have to be hemmed but the waist and legs are the right size and the pockets for the armor fall in exactly the right place on me. $116 plus ~$40 for the armor at Road Rider.
They also look like regular Levi's without a lot of extra seams.
Hope to never test them.

 

[Chill]

I had a low speed get-off with Draggin Jeans and they did their job. Minor scuff, did not wear through the denim. The impact, however, was not so great. I had a kevlar fabric pattern over my bruised knee. If I was to go that route again, I would add armor to the knees and hips.

 

[sckego]

Because not everyone rides only for fun on sunny Sundays. If you ride your bike for daily transportation, wearing full-on motorcycle pants just isn't an option. You're not going to sit in your armored textile pants at a restaurant or in a movie theater or when you're out with friends. Kevlar jeans seem like a good compromise. You get more protection than regular jeans, but they're still usable for normal off-the-bike activities.

You're not?

I wear my armored textile gear around pretty regularly. There's also the option of wearing normal clothes underneath and stashing your gear in your luggage.

-uses bike as daily transportation guy

 

[GAJ]

i had a 50mph crash in draggin jeans-they held up very well.my knee got a minor scrape on it where the kevlar grabbed the pavement.the denim tore,but the kevlar was intact.it's better to buy them on the snug side so the kevlar doesn't move around and they do sell armor to go with the jeans.really good product.

Went down twice...actually the exact same pair of pants both times.

One was a solo brain fart episode where I mostly slid on grass the second was a left turner almost 10 years ago where I hit and rolled on pavement.

Pants were completely unscathed, zero road rash though in the second incident left hip area was badly bruised from the initial impact.

I gave them to a friend after I bought two new pair!

I have to believe that had I been wearing regular jeans nasty rash would have been the result in both instances.

 

[FourT2Infinity]

I rock these when I'm on the bike & wanna wear jeans. Deth Killers Slim Guy... (sadly, don't know if these are available anymore)

If I want armor, then I don't wear these - I wear my Dainese textile or leathers...

 

[ilikefood]

You're not?

OK, let me rephrase that: I don't want to deal with the hassle of bulky motorcycle gear - especially pants - for a short ride at low speeds in the city. I think most reasonable people would agree that the risk/reward isn't worth it.

I wear my armored textile gear around pretty regularly. There's also the option of wearing normal clothes underneath and stashing your gear in your luggage.

Not every bike has lockable luggage. And even if it does, dealing with taking off and putting on overpants is a huge pain in the ass. I don't think it's worth it for short in-town rides, especially if you're running errands and going to multiple places.

For longer trips at higher speeds, especially in situations where you're going to just one location and staying there for a while (like for commuting), overpants are great. But if I'm going out, or just running to Whole Foods to get milk or whatever, Kevlar jeans make a lot more sense.

 

[Gabe]

I haven't tried them, but if I was ever going to ride around in jeans I'd be tempted to have Ruste add a kevlar liner with D3O pockets to jeans I already own:

http://www.rusteprotection.com

Killer tip! Thanks.

 

[louemc]

I bought a pair for putting around town on work days or a casual City jaunt for a meal or whatever on a weekend.

I sure know they are not leathers and the protection will be no where near as good, but thought I would ask teh barf if any booms in them are on record.

Thanks in advance.

Experiences will run the spectrum...And compounded by the variables in crash conditions of a moment....They mean nothing.

Leather has superior abrasion resistance to any man made, woven kevlar/Ballistic Nylon. Highest grade Armor, beats the lesser grades.

What does failure cost in Hospital and Doctor bills? And lost work, while recovering?

Only the best is good enough, and...There has to be hope, that...That is good enough.

 

[S1KGSXR600]

Because not everyone rides only for fun on sunny Sundays. If you ride your bike for daily transportation, wearing full-on motorcycle pants just isn't an option. You're not going to sit in your armored textile pants at a restaurant or in a movie theater or when you're out with friends. Kevlar jeans seem like a good compromise. You get more protection than regular jeans, but they're still usable for normal off-the-bike activities.

I wear full leathers, all the time. In the movies, resteraunts, social gatherings, hanging out. If I don't want to wear full leathers, I get a ride, ride a bike, take my car. I realize not everyone has a second mode of transportation. They should buy a backpack, and carry a second change of clothes.

If you feel 'weird' wearing the proper gear to save your life for a family gathering, maybe you should figure out alternatives instead of risking your life. Or your limbs? Know what costs more than convenience or your ego? Your limbs. Skin grafts. Just my opinion. I realize many don't feel the same. But I know for a fact I'd be dead right now if I hadn't worn proper gear. Or atleast severely handicapped. And all from accident that happened on the days I didn't expect them.

But atleast if you do buy this stuff your buying motocycle armored pants and not just being a dumbass wearing normal jeans. To the store and stuff I can see the inconvenience. Do whatever floats your boat. Just realize you can get rear ended by a car at any speed. And I definitely want to be wearing the best stuff when I fly off and hit a pole or go through a rear windshield

 

[auditude]

Experiences will run the spectrum...And compounded by the variables in crash conditions of a moment....They mean nothing.

Leather has superior abrasion resistance to any man made, woven kevlar/Ballistic Nylon. Highest grade Armor, beats the lesser grades.

What does failure cost in Hospital and Doctor bills? And lost work, while recovering?

Only the best is good enough, and...There has to be hope, that...That is good enough.

Kinda my point but, I think I read OP as being worried about how they (Draggin jeans) would hold up in a crash. My response was based upon the implied concern of crashing and, thus, suggested better protection.

 

[budman]

Thanks guys. Some good info.

For me too.. running into meeting and such I cannot stash over pants or stuff. I do have knee guards at the office I will throw on if I have to hit a freeway and then just leave on the bike.. if they get stolen well F That Guy!

There looks to be other good options to look at.

ATGATT is great, but at times I have to take the risk a bit if I want to ride. This OP has fallen off at a buck twenty and not got a scratch thanks to good gear and I have good gear. I just cannot wear some of it and ride a bike to work.. so I have to compromise.

Considering I wore corduroy pants and jacket in High School I guess I can deal.

 

[ilikefood]

I wear full leathers, all the time. In the movies, resteraunts, social gatherings, hanging out. If I don't want to wear full leathers, I get a ride, ride a bike, take my car. I realize not everyone has a second mode of transportation. They should buy a backpack, and carry a second change of clothes.

If you feel 'weird' wearing the proper gear to save your life for a family gathering, maybe you should figure out alternatives instead of risking your life. Or your limbs? Know what costs more than convenience or your ego? Your limbs. Skin grafts. Just my opinion. I realize many don't feel the same. But I know for a fact I'd be dead right now if I hadn't worn proper gear. Or atleast severely handicapped. And all from accident that happened on the days I didn't expect them.

You ride a motorcycle, which is a lot more dangerous than driving a car, so you should really lighten up on being so judge mental about other people's risk vs. reward choices. Let's make a coupe simple edits to your statement, shall we?

"I drive a car, all the time. To the movies, resteraunts, social gatherings, hanging out. If I don't want to drive a car, I get a ride or take a taxi. I realize not everyone has a car. They should get an Uber or Lyft account, and not ride motorcycles.

If you feel 'weird' driving a car to save your life for a family gathering, maybe you should figure out alternatives instead of risking your life. Or your limbs? Know what costs more than convenience or fun of riding a motorcycle? Your limbs. Skin grafts. Just my opinion. I realize many don't feel the same. But I know for a fact I'd be dead right now if I hadn't driven a car. Or atleast severely handicapped. And all from accident that happened on the days I didn't expect them."

If you believe your own judgemental logic, you should really hang up your leathers, sell your bike, and only drive a car.

 

[fubar929]

Not every bike has lockable luggage. And even if it does, dealing with taking off and putting on overpants is a huge pain in the ass. I don't think it's worth it for short in-town rides, especially if you're running errands and going to multiple places.

For longer trips at higher speeds, especially in situations where you're going to just one location and staying there for a while (like for commuting), overpants are great. But if I'm going out, or just running to Whole Foods to get milk or whatever, Kevlar jeans make a lot more sense.

I can be in and out of my 1-piece Roadcraft, or my old Motoport overpants, in 10 or 20 seconds. A combination lock and cable secure everything to my bike in all but the most unsavory neighborhoods.

 

[ZCrow]

I haven't tried them, but if I was ever going to ride around in jeans I'd be tempted to have Ruste add a kevlar liner with D3O pockets to jeans I already own:

http://www.rusteprotection.com

This or look at $300+ for a pair of jeans that don't look like mom jeans. Ruste would be the cheaper solution.

 

[sfo423]

Whatever the jeans are, they all definitely need armor.

Definitely on this. Get some Forcefield 3 or 4 layer shorts and some decent knee protection. Just make sure you get jeans that (a) are extra long and (b) are not skinny fit/too tight (so you can't comfortably get armor under the pants). Take a look at Draggin Jeans. No offs, but yes to (a) and (b) above.

 

[S1KGSXR600]

You ride a motorcycle, which is a lot more dangerous than driving a car, so you should really lighten up on being so judge mental about other people's risk vs. reward choices. Let's make a coupe simple edits to your statement, shall we?

"I drive a car, all the time. To the movies, resteraunts, social gatherings, hanging out. If I don't want to drive a car, I get a ride or take a taxi. I realize not everyone has a car. They should get an Uber or Lyft account, and not ride motorcycles.

If you feel 'weird' driving a car to save your life for a family gathering, maybe you should figure out alternatives instead of risking your life. Or your limbs? Know what costs more than convenience or fun of riding a motorcycle? Your limbs. Skin grafts. Just my opinion. I realize many don't feel the same. But I know for a fact I'd be dead right now if I hadn't driven a car. Or atleast severely handicapped. And all from accident that happened on the days I didn't expect them."

If you believe your own judgemental logic, you should really hang up your leathers, sell your bike, and only drive a car.

Well that made no sense, but good try. A car has airbags, a steel frame, glass, plastic and occasionally leather or other fabrics to protect you against collision. It's also supported on twice the amount of rubber, has much greater visibility, and is all around safer. The only thing that makes you safer on a motorcycle is your gear, so your saying it's smart to be as lax on your gear as possible, because you don't want to go the extra mile for the correct level of protection that could possibly save your life?

If that's the case, you should go out to your car, if you have one, and remove the seat belts, air bags, windows, and convert the frame from steel to aluminum and then drive your family around in it. Cause that is equivalent to downgrading your protection when riding a motorcycle.

If you really believe that wearing sub par gear isn't really a greater risk for yourself and your future, you should go out on a pair of real leathers and then a pair of jeans and go get hit by a car wearing each of those and report back how it goes

 

[Gabe]

Well that made no sense, but good try. A car has airbags, a steel frame, glass, plastic and occasionally leather or other fabrics to protect you against collision. It's also supported on twice the amount of rubber, has much greater visibility, and is all around safer. The only thing that makes you safer on a motorcycle is your gear, so your saying it's smart to be as lax on your gear as possible, because you don't want to go the extra mile for the correct level of protection that could possibly save your life?

If that's the case, you should go out to your car, if you have one, and remove the seat belts, air bags, windows, and convert the frame from steel to aluminum and then drive your family around in it. Cause that is equivalent to downgrading your protection when riding a motorcycle.

If you really believe that wearing sub par gear isn't really a greater risk for yourself and your future, you should go out on a pair of real leathers and then a pair of jeans and go get hit by a car wearing each of those and report back how it goes

You do realize that the only protective gear shown to significantly reduce fatality rates is the helmet, right? If you hit a pole or get rear-ended by a car at anything faster than 15 or 20 mph you will probably die, no matter what you're wearing.

So be smug in your make-believe armor. Obviously, it has some ability to protect you from injury, but it's very limited, especially when you compare it to a car. Being self-righteous when you have maybe 10% more protection seems a little silly to me.

 

[louemc]

You do realize that the only protective gear shown to significantly reduce fatality rates is the helmet, right? If you hit a pole or get rear-ended by a car at anything faster than 15 or 20 mph you will probably die, no matter what you're wearing.

So be smug in your make-believe armor. Obviously, it has some ability to protect you from injury, but it's very limited, especially when you compare it to a car. Being self-righteous when you have maybe 10% more protection seems a little silly to me.

Ahhh Gabe...There is a ton of screwball thinking there...But your younger than me, and...still have a lot to learn...

 

[ZCrow]

Gear is definitely more than 10% but it definitely should not make you over confident either. As for helmets, yes any direct impact greater than 20 MPH and it may be game over but fortunately most helmet impacts are not direct impacts. Hence why so many of us are still walking and talking after multiple crashes.

But this is really off topic isn't it. Wearing Kevlar reenforced blue jeans is not ideal but is still reasonable for around town riding. We can't all show up to all social events in full leathers.

 

[russ69]

Ahhh Gabe...There is a ton of screwball thinking there...But your younger than me, and...still have a lot to learn...

Unfortunately Gabe has it right. Good gear helps with the scapes and scratches but it's not going to save your life in most circumstances. I'm glad that young people are better informed and wearing their gear. It sure helps with minor crashes and can provide protection from painful injuries.
Having said that, the NHRA lets me race in jacket and jeans if I don't go over 120 MPH or 9.99 ET, they must know something? I don't race in jacket and jeans (don't look at my avatar) but the choice is there...