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Ford Ranger 4x4 vs Honda Ridgeline 4x4

TheRobSJ said:
So on the bookface, there’s a group called life at a car dealership. And it’s mostly like a reverse Yelp of salespeople whining about customers who come in to look at a new $40k vehicle and they’ve got a nothing but a broke dick trade with $5k negative equity and a 550 credit score. Also seems to be fairly dominant on there is the absolute non stop shitting on everything Kia/Hyundai. Then you’ll get a Kia salesperson say “I don’t see what all the hate is about” or something like that. The punchline comes when someone reposnds “yeah me neither, I love these things. But I’m a parts manager who had to order five engines last week.”
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Sometimes mass production and human errors can cause flaws. WHO KNEW?!?!
 
berth said:
Yea, Buick has been high for some time.

It's like Buick has enough margin to make it worth putting the extra $$$ into quality control, but not enough to load it down with techno stuff like a Cadillac to make it break worthy.

There was that article recently, something like "We lose 100K vehicle sales a year due to quality".

And, I guess I just don't understand why this is. I don't understand how one company is significant lower quality than another, unless they simply choose to be. They simply choose to not go the extra mile necessary to bump the quality up.
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I assure you. Buick does not spend any more or less on QC than any other GM brand.

What’s hilarious is that you’ll have one carline wearing a Buick nameplate and another wearing a Chevy nameplate, both sharing architecture, powertrains, and are fairly identical. Hell they’re even made at the same factory! Yet the Buick is somehow so much more problem free than the Chevy in the eyes of surveys like JD Power or Consumer Reports.

It’s all demographics.

When I worked at Cadillac, I would get in some Deville/Seville with a shitload of squeaks and rattles. Nope. No complaints about that. Why? The average person driving one of those can’t hear them. Buick? Though the core demographic has been shifting a bit this past decade or so, there are still quite a bit of older folks buying those who don’t have any problems with their Bluetooth because they barely use their flip phone as is anyways.
 
TheRobSJ said:
It’s all demographics.
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I think I've related this anecdote on the board before. One of my old bosses came from Ford and did a stint at Lincoln. The consumer complaints on the Lincoln were significantly higher than the Ford models becuase the buyer expected a much higher standard from the luxury brand. The average Ford buyer just accepted some of the flaws.

yodaisgod said:
Sometimes mass production and Alabama can cause flaws. WHO KNEW?!?!
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FTFY.
I might be tempted to check out an off lease Santa Cruz in a few years. Maybe all the stupid will have died down by then. It's amazing to me how many people have the need and money to constantly keep buying $80k cowboy cadillacs.
 
wazzuFreddo said:
The funny thing about this is I have a 800+ credit score and no trade, let alone something with negative equity, but I keep driving my old stuff because I hate the car buying experience so much. :laughing
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That's why I bought from Vroom. No sales people, everything e-signed, they delivered the truck to my house and I had 7 days to test drive it.
 
ScarySpikes said:
This really shows the difference between anecdotes and data. Consumer Reports (generally a pretty reliable source) puts Hyundai as 6th from the best in overall brand reliability. The ones that beat it are the expected Japanese brands (Toyota, Lexus, Mazda, Honda), and, the one that surprised me, Buick. To be fair, Kia does a little bit worse, at 15th from the best, falling right after Audi and Nissan

Since we are talking about trucks, though, it would be good to take a note of the major competition. Ford is 22nd (out of 26 brands rated), Chevy is 17th, GMC is 16th. Good job to RAM though, they are actually 7th, just behind Hyundai.
Also interesting to note, the single worst vehicle in terms of reliability is a tie between the Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra 1500. The Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon twins are 6th from the bottom.
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Unless something has changed, Consumer Reports largely garners their data from reader's inputs...which is hardly unbiased.
 
that rampage brings back memories of mine - fun POS

pulled the trigger on my new ranger today ... Hooray
 
Kornholio said:
Nice! What'd you end up with?
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mid level outfitted xlt 4x4 super crew (dad cab )

the turbo on the motor is really seamless, as is the 10 speed auto transmission
 
GPzPop said:
mid level outfitted xlt 4x4 super crew (dad cab )

the turbo on the motor is really seamless, as is the 10 speed auto transmission
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Nice...probably the same features as mine unless it's a 302A. I didn't spring for the power/heated seats.
 
yes 301A package
charcoal grey paint, black interior
 
Well shit dude...we have basically the same damn truck assuming you went with the Sport package. :laughing


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On the subject of truck and truck beds.

This gem just showed up on one of the Tacoma FB groups...

:facepalm

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I just bought a 4x4 today, I make poor life choices #nowarrantee :laughing
 

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