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Ford Ranger 4x4 vs Honda Ridgeline 4x4

Except the Truck Bed, which is the part that matters.

Apparently not to most truck buyers.

I have an old Frontier, King Cab with a 6'3" bed. This is important, because it is 97% a work truck and I frequently carry scaffolds that are exactly 6' in length and therefore won't fit in a 6' bed.

I'd love to upgrade to a crew cab compact truck, but compact trucks are less compact than ever and crew cabs with full-length beds are unicorns.
 
Except the Truck Bed, which is the part that matters.

Not to me. The bed on my Ranger carries everything I need a bed to carry. I tow far more than I haul so that's where I focus my attention when it comes to trucks. All trucks can haul, more or less. Towing is where they start to show their true colors and differences.

Apparently not to most truck buyers.

I have an old Frontier, King Cab with a 6'3" bed. This is important, because it is 97% a work truck and I frequently carry scaffolds that are exactly 6' in length and therefore won't fit in a 6' bed.

I'd love to upgrade to a crew cab compact truck, but compact trucks are less compact than ever and crew cabs with full-length beds are unicorns.

Just because they're not on dealer lots doesn't mean they don't exist. Dealers order what they can sell the easiest. It doesn't make sense to order a "unicorn" that may sit on the lot for months or even years. Since there's really no such thing as a "compact truck" in the U.S. market anymore, you're basically stuck with a crew cab mid-size truck with a 6-foot bed. Toyota for sure offers that and I see them on the lot at Fremont Toyota all the time. I'm sure other dealers have them too. However, a crew cab Tacoma with a 6-foot bed is basically the same length as an F-150. :dunno
 
Wes Siler said:
“I want a mid-size truck.”

My recommendation: A Ford Ranger

But I read on a car website that those are bad: Same caveats about car reviewers as above. Driving an unladen vehicle with only a driver, and maybe a passenger onboard does not represent real world use. You want a truck because you have people, dogs, and stuff to carry. With its 1100 pound payload (four door 4x4 models), a Tacoma only has 600 pounds of capacity left to work with once you add two people and full tank of fuel. Not only does this rule out the addition of protection parts, campers, or other off-road accessories, but it means you can dangerously overload your vehicle simply by trying to take three friends and enough beer for all four of you, on a weekend camping trip.

Not only does a Ranger come equipped with disc brakes on all four wheels, a powerful motor, and a good transmission, but at 1600 pounds in its worst-case configuration (four doors, four-wheel drive), its payload actually exceeds that of a Tundra. The Ranger is the best selling vehicle in Australia for a reason.

How I’d configure it: Mine’s a Lariat SuperCrew FX4, which stickers around $46,000. That’s pretty pricey. Most drivers would probably be better off with the XL or XLT trims, which skip some of the convenience options, but don’t skimp on capabilities. If you’re able, you should definitely check the box for the FX4 package since that brings Ford’s excellent Terrain Management system, and a rear locker. Terrain Management is the best of the modern electronic off-road traction management systems out there, seamlessly tweaking individual brake calipers to replicate the effects of locking axle diffs, without the drivetrain stress and inconvenience those bring. If that sentence is confusing, here’s a simpler one: the Ranger is better at traction than anything else in this space.

Like all other pickups this side of the F-150 Raptor, the Ranger’s suspension errs a little too far in the direction of supporting weight, rather than providing ride comfort off-road. Rather than option up to nicer trim levels, I’d encourage you to instead spend the money equipping yours with the complete Old Man Emu BP-51 suspension system.

It's a great article if you're trying to decide on a vehicle in general. Wes is a great auto journalist.

https://wessiler.substack.com/p/my-truck-recommendations-for-every

However, I will say that you can get the electronic-locking rear differential as a single option though so you don't have to fork over the major coin for the FX4 package just to get it. The terrain management thing is cool, but most will never use it. Wes lives on a ranch in Montana so he likely makes use of it all the time and is proponent of it for that reason.
 
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Didn’t realize the Tacoma is so underwhelming at being a truck. Must be a successful marketing campaign.
 
Didn’t realize the Tacoma is so underwhelming at being a truck. Must be a successful marketing campaign.

Yes, it is. Not to mention that 15-20 years ago, it literally was the best in its class. It is demonstrably not in that position anymore, with plenty of evidence to support that claim, and yet the Toyota fanboys will continue to try to defend it like it's the 23R-powered machine of yore.

Look, I know everyone sees me as a Ford fanboy and that I'd do the same thing to defend the Ranger in this case, but quite honestly, the last generation Ranger was a turd in every way possible. Ford made zero attempt to keep up with Toyota as they started outpacing them in sales up until the point came that they decided to throw in the towel in 2012.

Fast forward nearly 10 years and you see the T6 Ranger, the same truck that our American T6-based Ranger is almost identical to, is the number one selling truck in Australia. A country were Toyota hasn't been able to outsell the Ranger in years that has quite basically the same type of buyers we do in America when it comes to people that actually use their trucks as a truck and not a lifestyle vehicle as we do here. You can even have a Hilux with a torque-monster diesel engine and a single cab down under, and still they don't outsell the Ranger. You could argue that Ford just markets the Ranger better in Australia than it does here, but that wouldn't change the fact that the Ranger still has better numbers all around for, again, those that actually use their truck as a truck...and it's not the same size as an F-150 like the Tacoma is.

As for the reliability claim, I'm again going to defer back to Wes's article:

"We live in the year 2021. And while most everything else has gone to shit, trucks have not. Any new car or truck you buy today can be expected to deliver at least 10 years and 150,000 miles of trouble-free driving.*

*Exceptions: Anything made by Tesla, Fiat, Jaguar-Land Rover, BMW, or Volkswagen Auto Group. All of these will absolutely burn to the ground the split second you pull off a dealer lot. Also, believe it or not, but performing ridiculously inappropriate modifications can ruin any vehicle. If you once had a Ford Raptor burn down because you tried to run 40s without regearing or custom drive shafts, that’s on you."


I'd like to see how many of you are still driving your current-generation Tacomas that you bought new off the dealer's lot 10 years from now and see how close you are to 150,000 miles. Probably not many of you, I'd bet. Also, since they didn't come out until 2016, that's at least 2026 for the current 3rd generation.
 
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Not to me. The bed on my Ranger carries everything I need a bed to carry. I tow far more than I haul so that's where I focus my attention when it comes to trucks. All trucks can haul, more or less. Towing is where they start to show their true colors and differences.


But Bro, how fast you corner with 3 motorcycles in the back on a trailer?



Apparently not to most truck buyers.

I have an old Frontier, King Cab with a 6'3" bed. This is important, because it is 97% a work truck and I frequently carry scaffolds that are exactly 6' in length and therefore won't fit in a 6' bed.

I'd love to upgrade to a crew cab compact truck, but compact trucks are less compact than ever and crew cabs with full-length beds are unicorns.

What bout ur Hillbilly Hottub?

redneck-relaxation
 
Not to me. The bed on my Ranger carries everything I need a bed to carry. I tow far more than I haul so that's where I focus my attention when it comes to trucks. All trucks can haul, more or less. Towing is where they start to show their true colors and differences.



Just because they're not on dealer lots doesn't mean they don't exist. Dealers order what they can sell the easiest. It doesn't make sense to order a "unicorn" that may sit on the lot for months or even years. Since there's really no such thing as a "compact truck" in the U.S. market anymore, you're basically stuck with a crew cab mid-size truck with a 6-foot bed. Toyota for sure offers that and I see them on the lot at Fremont Toyota all the time. I'm sure other dealers have them too. However, a crew cab Tacoma with a 6-foot bed is basically the same length as an F-150. :dunno

An issue for me in specific is that a straight-up 6' bed is just slightly too small. The scaffolds I carry around frequently are themselves exactly six feet long, so I'd never be able to shut the tailgate in a Tacoma, and that is no bueno.
 
$30k for a striped XL Ranger that doesn't say if it is 4x4 or not is a smokin' deal? :wtf
It has 4X4 in large font under the picture. But I agree - $199 a month after over $7k down is not that great a deal. It's $5700 without the trade in but with the ford cash on the hood. At a 24 month lease that's like adding $238.50 to the monthly.
 
As for the reliability claim, I'm again going to defer back to Wes's article:

"We live in the year 2021. And while most everything else has gone to shit, trucks have not. Any new car or truck you buy today can be expected to deliver at least 10 years and 150,000 miles of trouble-free driving.*

*Exceptions: Anything made by Tesla, Fiat, Jaguar-Land Rover, BMW, or Volkswagen Auto Group. All of these will absolutely burn to the ground the split second you pull off a dealer lot. Also, believe it or not, but performing ridiculously inappropriate modifications can ruin any vehicle. If you once had a Ford Raptor burn down because you tried to run 40s without regearing or custom drive shafts, that’s on you."

Purchasing a new vehicle and NOT expecting at least 10 years and 150K is insane, especially considering the prices.
 
There's only 1? Bet it was "gone" before the ad ran.... :laughing

Those were my first words to him :laughing

but even still, it's a loss leader to get you on the lot. Even if it is actually there, it will take them 5 hours to find it but hey... you can buy this one right now
 
Yup. They made a new Baja. That'll be one of those vehicles that doesn't sell well and gets canned after a few years. Then the resale stays 90% of new because people who want that sort of thing seek them out and people who have them hang on.
 
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