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Never Underestimate How Gay The Surveillance State Is.

What is the point of this tech?
A physical check of the driver’s license has always been sufficient to verify age.
And overly drunk or violent patrons will be handled by security or the police.

I think this is a case where tech created a fake problem, fixed it, and for a fee will solve it.
Kinda like all the other alerts and “services” and tracking data that are available for a subscription fee that we don’t need.
 
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Seriously screwed up :wow
 
This reminds me of FLOCK (I think that's how its spelled) Cameras all over town. The intention was good, the controls- not so much. My city, and maybe county, use them with good results.

What screwed up FLOCK was the data/recording wound up getting shared interchangably with othert clients. Live in Atlanta but need to see who is visiting your ex in Morgan Hill? Click here... I'd bet Flock has changed that open book policy and has clamped way down- but we don't get to know how much.
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Law enforcement camera networks—specifically Automatic License Plate Readers (ALPRs) by companies like Flock Safety—are rapidly expanding in and around Hollister, CA, and across the US. These systems create extensive surveillance webs that log vehicle movements using artificial intelligence. [1, 2, 3]

The "Flock" Surveillance Network
Flock Safety operates a network of hundreds of thousands of cameras across thousands of cities. Unlike red light or speed cameras, these systems do not issue tickets. Instead, they capture high-resolution point-in-time images of vehicle license plates, as well as vehicle make, color, and distinguishing features. [1, 2]
When a vehicle passes a camera, its "fingerprint" is uploaded to a cloud database, alerting local or regional police in real-time if the plate is associated with an active investigation, AMBER Alert, or stolen vehicle. [1, 2]

Privacy and Security Concerns
The widespread rollout of these systems has triggered significant pushback from civil liberties advocates like the American Civil Liberties Union. Major concerns include: [1]
  • Warrantless Tracking: Data is stored and shared across a centralized nationwide network, often allowing officers to track vehicle movements without a judge's warrant. [1, 2]
  • Data Misuse: There have been documented cases of law enforcement officers abusing the database to track ex-partners or civilians for personal, non-work-related reasons. [1, 2]
  • Scope Creep: Investigations have revealed expansions into areas beyond license plate reading, including audio sensors capable of detecting human distress and new PTZ (Pan-Tilt-Zoom) AI cameras designed to actively track human movement in real-time. [1, 2]

The Rise of the "Tech Curtain"
Police departments often defend ALPRs as critical, force-multiplying tools that help investigators quickly locate vehicles involved in serious crimes. When neighboring towns and counties install them, law enforcement agencies describe the resulting interconnected grid as a "curtain of technology" that makes it highly difficult to drive significant distances without being recorded. [1, 2]
 
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Fuck tech surveillance

But at the same time, most private businesses are pretty clear "we reserve the right to refuse business to...."
 
Every MJ dispensary that I've ever visited scans my DL.
Every bank is recording your transaction and image.
Every ATM is recording your transaction and image.
Retailers are using facial recognition to ban known or suspected shoplifters.
I would guess that a bar using your ID to compare to a database of unwanted trouble makers is probably driven by law suites against establishments that had incidents. Gotta keep the trouble makers out. In today's litigious society, they have to cover their ass. These systems have cost and increase their overhead so the owners aren't installing them "just because".
 
dravnx said:
Every MJ dispensary that I've ever visited scans my DL.
Every bank is recording your transaction and image.
Every ATM is recording your transaction and image.
Retailers are using facial recognition to ban known or suspected shoplifters.
I would guess that a bar using your ID to compare to a database of unwanted trouble makers is probably driven by law suites against establishments that had incidents. Gotta keep the trouble makers out. In today's litigious society, they have to cover their ass. These systems have cost and increase their overhead so the owners aren't installing them "just because".
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I suspect Walmart is the King of e-surveillance, but are beyond good at not talking about it.
 
Places such as malls, Wal-Mart, Lowes and Costco have flock cameras and or license plate readers. Big Brother knows all, hard to avoid it. They do have license plate ‘blockers’ but many states don’t allow even a clear cover on the tag. Many suspects are caught this way. But now there are ‘social’ or ‘activist’ searches which is skeevy. RFID glasses/hat, not yet for me but some prefer them at concert events or demonstrations. I’m exposed toast already if they want me.
 
Rohnert Park and Petaluma have been installing Flock cameras. I get that there is no expectation of privacy when out in public. But we do not live in a police state. You think California would be at the forefront of privacy laws that would limit the scope of these cameras.
 
It is all done in the name of safety.

I know I feel much better knowing all these FLOCKING cameras are watching me.
 
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Not sure what is gay about it; odd choice of words.

I agree that kind of ID check is way over the top though.
 
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