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NFL 2020

So you draw a line at intentional sock puppeting? Respect, respect.

What is the penalty for intentional sock puppeting? 15 yards and automatic first down if committed by defense?

Intentional? Everything is intentional. I expect people to play with intent between the whistles and within the rules.

After the whistle or outside the rules? No bueno.

The problem I'm having is that even within what I see as the rules as I understand them the hit on Brees was clean...but it was flagged. I'd call that a good hit and none of the Saints should take it personally. If that had happened after he had thrown the ball? I'd expect some paybacks on Street along with the penalty.
 
Intentional? Everything is intentional. I expect people to play with intent between the whistles and within the rules.

After the whistle or outside the rules? No bueno.

The problem I'm having is that even within what I see as the rules as I understand them the hit on Brees was clean...but it was flagged. I'd call that a good hit and none of the Saints should take it personally. If that had happened after he had thrown the ball? I'd expect some paybacks on Street along with the penalty.

Going back to that Brees hit, the guy hit him but tried to roll over to the side so he didn't squash him. I've seen it happen a couple of other times since and it always gets flagged anyway.

I think we somehow swung too far with the pendulum from the "Kill the Quarterback" days, I guess of the mean Joe 70s or something? Sometime back then. But with gruesome injuries to Theismann, Alex Smith, what have you, the sentiment remains: more deft athlete with upper body exposed as target of a half ton or more of humanity.
 
Intentional? Everything is intentional. I expect people to play with intent between the whistles and within the rules.

After the whistle or outside the rules? No bueno.

The problem I'm having is that even within what I see as the rules as I understand them the hit on Brees was clean...but it was flagged. I'd call that a good hit and none of the Saints should take it personally. If that had happened after he had thrown the ball? I'd expect some paybacks on Street along with the penalty.

I take it you are not familiar with Intentional Grounding as a penalty?
 
I took it to mean, "Got all up in his ass."
And I have to admit I did get a good chuckle out of imagining Brady with some big ugly's arm crammed in him all the way up to his tonsils. As I was imagining it my mind's eye saw flags being thrown for "roughing" and possibly "unsportsmanlike conduct" as well depending on the expression on Tom's face as it was going in. :toothless
 

This has to be a chuckle and a half for you Hurty Niners, right?

I mean, this seems like a TERRIBLE decision by L.A.

Trading Goff for Stafford is questionable as a straight across the board trade. The Rams just sold their whole future for this trade with multiple 1st rounders. That is insane.

Seattle is still declining, I expect the Niners and Cards get to slug it out for the West next year.

Niners are a shoe in if they don't become the Hurty Niners again, Cards are a rising star under that new young QB.
 
As a Niner fan, I don’t get it either. Just somebody else to sack. It seems like horizontal move. Not upward.
 
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Not sure we know exactly what Stafford's ceiling is since he's been on mostly below average teams with mediocre coaching.... :laughing

Personally, I thought him going to the Colts was a better fit.
 
Stafford may still have something to give but not for two firsts, a third, and Goff. That’s just nutz. Mind, I don’t know the exact details of the pics but that seems way over priced.
 
Part of that deal was getting rid of Goff's horrific contract.

but Stafford is a massive, massive upgrade over Goff.
 
Part of that deal was getting rid of Goff's horrific contract.

but Stafford is a massive, massive upgrade over Goff.
 
Is it possible that Staffords numbers are elevated somewhat by virtue of the division he’s been in and his team playing from behind for many of his games?
 
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