PGE our friendly Bay Area Utility

[CDONA]

In process for stuffing a battery plant here in Morro.
Supposed to build it in the old tank farm, that supplied fuel for the old power plant. Leaving the tainted dirt for a future resolution.
Then there is the off shore wind project to charge those batteries.
How about another 20 years from the nuke plant too,

Another warning about the "Ring of Fire" getting more active? and earthquakes too.

Giving up the coast, heading for Az, , ,

tic, tic, tic,

 

[Abacinator]

National average rate is $0.16/KWh. California average is $0.31/KWh

 

[GAJ]

National average rate is $0.16/KWh. California average is $0.31/KWh

I wish.

The average bundled electric rate for PG&E residential customers is 45 cents per kWh as of January 1, 2024, according to the latest electric rate report. However, the cost per kWh of electricity ranges from 34 to 72 cents per kWh depending on your rate plan and the time of year.

In October 2023, the average electricity cost was 27 cents per kWh in California, according to the EIA. So, PG&E electric rates are:

Markedly above the state average and ~2.5 times the national average of 17 cents per kWh Competing with San Diego Gas & Electric‘s rates for the highest in the country

In the bigger picture, PG&E electric rates have increased sharply in recent years, and are expected to continue increasing at around 10.4% per year through 2026, according to the 2023 Senate Bill 695 report filed by the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC).

https://www.solar.com/learn/pge-ele...ge bundled electric rate,and the time of year.

 

[Abacinator]

I've drafted another letter to PG&E

Dear PG&E,

Fuck you.

Sincerely,
Everyone

 

[budman]

Must have taken hours to write that.

 

[Butch]

TLDR, well some...

but
Good thing I'm a shareholder.
I think.

 

[Escape pod]

The rest of the nation doesn’t have a $20 an hour minimum wage. Lucky them.
Contracting in California, its ordinances and the permit process is expensive, … it takes months to change a lightbulb.
Recently, San Francisco contracted a downtown outhouse and the contractor donated all the materials; the Taxpayer cost was half 1 million dollars.
It’s California, not them.

 

[Abacinator]

We're starting to tread into PF territory...

 

[lizard]

Fuck PG&E. There's got to be a better way.

...

Idaho or Tennessee.

 

[GAJ]

The rest of the nation doesn’t have a $20 an hour minimum wage. Lucky them.
Contracting in California, its ordinances and the permit process is expensive, … it takes months to change a lightbulb.
Recently, San Francisco contracted a downtown outhouse and the contractor donated all the materials; the Taxpayer cost was half 1 million dollars.
It’s California, not them.

Yes and no.

Gas prices here are 67 percent higher than the national at the moment, that spread is always within that range, usually a bit lower.

PGE is 165 percent higher than the national average for electricity and that gap is always rising.

 

[GAJ]

Idaho or Tennessee.

Idaho gets most of its power from hydro, Tennessee from coal.

Maybe we should return to coal?

 

[Abacinator]

Idaho is also full of white supremacist doomsday preppers and Tennessee is full of country music

*shudder*

 

[Ridley]

Idaho is also full of white supremacist doomsday preppers and Tennessee is full of country music

*shudder*

You can take it up the @$$ from a hillbilly, prepper, or PG&E.

 

[Abacinator]

I'll take PG&E. I've seen Deliverance!

 

[Abacinator]

Also, you can say ass on the Internet lol

 

[Hooli]

Idaho is also full of white supremacist doomsday preppers and Tennessee is full of country music

*shudder*

"You can count me out."

 

[NorCalBusa]

Nobody has posted the salaries and bonuses PGE leadership has received over the last 5 years? It's a pretty chart with curves...

 

[Eldritch]

Last I heard 8% of California's electricity was being generated by small scale (local private) energy. That number keeps growing and PG&E is here to make 100% sure that no matter how much energy you generate without them, they will not lose 1 cent of income.

 

[jt2]

Congettura: You must think that providing Electricity is easy.

Certainly not trivial, but not as hard as you seem to think, all things considered. That's why many states are able to do it for a fraction of what PG&E can manage. And no, it isn't the minimum wage that accounts for it, it is years of gross mismanagement.

PG&E is inexpensive compared to what it would cost you to provide it.

Nope. My Generac 22kw consumes about 3 gallons of propane per hour at full load. Last time I had tanks filled it was $3.89 per gallon. That works out to 53 cents per KW/h

As of 4/1, my PG&E peak rate is up to 51 cents per KW/h.

That's one rate increase or social engineering fee away from being cheaper to produce myself on the rare occasions where cloud cover prevents solar/battery from covering my usage.

In fact, if they go through with the income-based fee structure they've been talking about I'm seriously considering telling them to come get their meter.

 

[Holeshot]

Fuck PG&E. There's got to be a better way.

And I mean a better way to supply power without this company being involved. We need to fire them.

N-U-C-L-E-A-R.

Come on now, our rates have only QUADRUPLED since 2000!

EV's for everyone!

I'll take PG&E. I've seen Deliverance!

Well we ARE squealing like pigs and getting Fucked!