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Porsche Panamera S ?

Archimedes said:
:wtf I take it you've not driven an Aventador...
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Never driven the plastic fantastic either, nor do I frequent racetracks. Abracadabranator isn't any better at commuting than any other car, and the only parking lot it'll get any attention at is walmart as long as there aren't any corvettes around
 
For some reason I think a aventador would get more attention than a corvette.

Where do you live 800k plus cars are everywhere?
 
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Holeshot said:
GTS: $75K. Not much margin there.

GT4: Nothing in the database yet.

I've got a 2001 Prostar 190, 350 hours in near perfect shape I'll sell you cheap Ev! Summertime's here!
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Well, PM details! :laughing Better fit in the garage so measure length on trailer.

That entry level McLaren looks legit at $180k. Whats the verdict on it?
 
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Yakoo752 said:
I have. Unlimited on the flats

Fun as fuck
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That's my point. Assuming someone buys an Aventador just to show off is laughable. Those cars are a blast to drive and the sell based on their performance, not for bragging rights at Cars and Coffee.
 
explorin said:
For some reason I think a aventador would get more attention than a corvette.
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Of course it would. But the guy spending a mil on a vintage Corvette is doing it for a showpiece/art investment and the guy buying a million dollar supercar is doing it because of how it performs. The look/potential appreciation is a distant secondary consideration.
 
Archimedes said:
That's my point. Assuming someone buys an Aventador just to show off is laughable. Those cars are a blast to drive and the sell based on their performance, not for bragging rights at Cars and Coffee.
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Have you seen the S2E1 of Jay Lenos Garage? Nick Cannon flat out admits he just has a Ferrari California (among other supercars) just to pull ass.

There's plenty of people out there with obscenely expensive cars and never use what they're made to do. 99% of Range Rovers will never see an off road situation. I see plenty of old ass people driving an AMG S63 just because "it's he best one." When I lived closer to the team's HQ, I would constantly see 49ers driving supercars with the biggest custom wheels that would fit in the fenders. They're all about showing off at that point when you put on rims that get destroyed if you hit a pothole at speed.
 
TheRobSJ said:
Have you seen the S2E1 of Jay Lenos Garage? Nick Cannon flat out admits he just has a Ferrari California (among other supercars) just to pull ass.

There's plenty of people out there with obscenely expensive cars and never use what they're made to do. 99% of Range Rovers will never see an off road situation. I see plenty of old ass people driving an AMG S63 just because "it's he best one." When I lived closer to the team's HQ, I would constantly see 49ers driving supercars with the biggest custom wheels that would fit in the fenders. They're all about showing off at that point when you put on rims that get destroyed if you hit a pothole at speed.
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Nick Cannon isn't the typical supercar buyer. Luckily. You can always find an exception. But the typical buyer of these high dollar cars is attracted to them first for the performance they offer. Sure, the looks plays into things, but it's a totally different buying decision than the guy that goes to Mecum and pays $750,000 for an old Corvette.

There are armies of high dollar late model cars being thrashed at tracks all over this country on a weekly basis. Hell I'd take a $200k RS over some showroom queen old Vette. Because I'd actually be buying it to drive it, not look at or been seen in it.
 
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Tharkûn said:
You have some very strange perceptions on supercars. The vast minority buy them for performance
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My perception comes from experience interacting with people who own high dollar sports cars. And drive the hell out of them. And even those that put few miles on them, do so for the experience of the performance, not for being a baller. The celebrity/pro athlete crowd that drives them to the shops on Rodeo drive is the minority of the buyer pool. And you'd be surprised at even how many of those cars actually spend time at the racetrack as well. My guess is that Caitlyn would drive rings around anybody on this forum in her (lowly) $250k RS on the track.

Do a few track days at COTA or Sebring or CMS and tell me about how the buyers own them for image.
 
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Archimedes said:
My perception comes from experience interacting with people who own high dollar sports cars. And drive the hell out of them. And even those that put few miles on them, do so for the experience of the performance, not for being a baller. The celebrity/pro athlete crowd that drives them to the shops on Rodeo drive is the minority of the buyer pool. And you'd be surprised at even how many of those cars actually spend time at the racetrack as well. My guess is that Caitlyn would drive rings around anybody on this forum in her (lowly) $250k RS on the track.

Do a few track days at COTA or Sebring or CMS and tell me about how the buyers own them for image.
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You really think that the Rodeo Drive set is the minority? If that were true, then Ferrari would still be selling cars with a proper manual.
 
Archimedes said:
My perception comes from experience interacting with people who own high dollar sports cars. And drive the hell out of them. And even those that put few miles on them, do so for the experience of the performance, not for being a baller. The celebrity/pro athlete crowd that drives them to the shops on Rodeo drive is the minority of the buyer pool. And you'd be surprised at even how many of those cars actually spend time at the racetrack as well. My guess is that Caitlyn would drive rings around anybody on this forum in her (lowly) $250k RS on the track.

Do a few track days at COTA or Sebring or CMS and tell me about how the buyers own them for image.
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So you only hang out with owners at the track, and think that's what everyone does with them.
 
Come to Danville........tons of Ferraris, Lambos, Astons and even McLarens that just putz around the downtown strip, revving and thinking they're the shit. :rolleyes

Sure, SOME of them get tracked, but...........It'd be interesting to study each model of car and find out what percentage of owners ever track them. My guess is Miatas would rank higher than most exotics.

Also I wouldn't call one trackday a year "getting tracked". More like just putting a checkmark on the ol' bucket list. It certainly wasn't the reason they bought it.
 
Reli said:
Come to Danville........tons of Ferraris, Lambos, Astons and even McLarens that just putz around the downtown strip, revving and thinking they're the shit. :rolleyes

Sure, SOME of them get tracked, but...........It'd be interesting to study each model of car and find out what percentage of owners ever track them. My guess is Miatas would rank higher than most exotics.

Also I wouldn't call one trackday a year "getting tracked". More like just putting a checkmark on the ol' bucket list. It certainly wasn't the reason they bought it.
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I don't believe i've ever been to Danville. Only drove by on my way to Thill. Is that some sort of rich area? I may want to stop by sometime and check out some nice cars.
 
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stan23 said:
I don't believe i've ever been to Danville. Only drove by on my way to Thill. Is that some sort of rich area? I may want to stop by sometime and check out some nice cars.
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There are tons, but they're usually garaged and not driven as much as some of the nicer areas of the South Bay. But pure numbers I bet there are more in Danville Alamo and Diablo than the rest of the Bay Area
 
Tharkûn said:
There are tons, but they're usually garaged and not driven as much as some of the nicer areas of the South Bay. But pure numbers I bet there are more in Danville Alamo and Diablo than the rest of the Bay Area
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I've been to Walnut Creek and damn, some nice cars there!! I see Danville is right around that area.
 
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