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Porsche Panamera S ?

Blankpage said:
Yeah totally no resemblance at all

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You are obviously not a car fanatic.
 
stan23 said:
You are obviously not a car fanatic.
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I like cars as much as the next guy and yeah I can spot the differences.
But there isn't another car that looks more like a 911 than a Cayman and that's deliberate.
Seems odd to say they look nothing alike.
 
The 911, has that iconic shape, the cayman does not have the same silhouette--just like the boxster. One look from the rear, and you'll see the cars are shaped differently.
 
stan23 said:
The 911, has that iconic shape, the cayman does not have the same silhouette--just like the boxster. One look from the rear, and you'll see the cars are shaped differently.
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From the rear, I agree, they are very distinct, particularly side by side. But in silhouette, from the side, they've gotten much more similar than they were in the prior iterations. The side view of the 981 has much in common with the original 911s. The front views are similar, save for the 981s lights which are more similar to the 918 than the 991.

From the side, the 981 and the 991 look more similar than different. I have one of each and see them side by side every day.

Porsche has to keep them distinct enough and the Cayman inferior enough so as not to cannibalize the Carrera.
 
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Holeshot said:
It totally does. Car's worth around $52-55K on the open market. Prices are increasing on that one model for the sole reason of: there is no replacement for it. I'd expect it to be worth about $60K in two years with 10-20K miles.
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That's razor thin profits once you calculate in your annualized sunk costs, even if you rarely drive it.

I think the era of buying true consumer cars, holding them for 25 years, and then selling them for significant profits is virtually over. Not saying it won't ever happen
 
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Ducky_Fresh said:
Berto: What's Cayman GT4 going for?

These sure are some fly rides..

2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 - $130k new - https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/671248573/overview/
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That GT4 price is not sticker, regardless of what it says in the ad. They have a market premium on it, which looks to be about $25k based on the specs. Which they won't get in the current market. They were asking $25k over for a new Spyder when they were selling at or slightly below sticker at other dealers. They're trolling for a sucker.
 
Considering people say the 911 looks like a stretched vw bug, the cayman is practically the 911 twin
 
Yakoo752 said:
That's razor thin profits once you calculate in your annualized sunk costs, even if you rarely drive it.

I think the era of buying true consumer cars, holding them for 25 years, and then selling them for significant profits is virtually over. Not saying it won't ever happen
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Agree. Maybe it'll make money later, maybe not....totally a crap shoot. Right now, they're in decent demand due to how good they are and how much they can do as a car and a track weapon.

The car business sucks. That's why it's only fun to play in it...
 
Yakoo752 said:
you guys would know better than I but I've heard of the barn finds etc fetching significant $$$
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They do, but it's typically someone who knows what it is buying it off the original owner/original owners wife for cheap and bringing it to a proper market.

I've known some people who've bought cars they thought would be popular and held them for a long time with the hopes of a profit, but all of them lost their shirts.

Most of the market has gone to shit because people have no idea of the value of what they have, but they're on the wrong side of it.
 
Reli said:
In 10-20 years the gov't will begin incentivizing people to turn in their gasoline powered cars, so what's left might increase in value, right?
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that's already happening to some extent. Cash for Clunkers from a few years ago, and the ongoing SMOG buyout thing that CARB does, $1k for your old car. more than a few collector cars died and are offered up to those programs every year.

i don't think the gooberment is going to increase buyouts. it's too blatant, and the oil companies will cry foul.

there will be many other ways the public will be forced into non ICE vehicles, and in tandem the "privelege" of driving will be discouraged.
 
wouldnt the cars of long ago start dropping in price when all the old fogeys start dieing off?? i mean, there buying cars that have no technology, giant motors that dont produce alot of horse power, dont handle, but there buying them cause they couldnt when they were kids and now they have money..

i saw a mecum recently and was amazed someone would pay a million dollars for a corvette thats 70 years old, drum breaks, giant engine that had like 350 horse power...when you could buy something like a Lamborghini aventador sv that has insane horsepower and handling for the same price. Now what would you want? uh Lambo please.
 
explorin said:
wouldnt the cars of long ago start dropping in price when all the old fogeys start dieing off?? i mean, there buying cars that have no technology, giant motors that dont produce alot of horse power, dont handle, but there buying them cause they couldnt when they were kids and now they have money..

i saw a mecum recently and was amazed someone would pay a million dollars for a corvette thats 70 years old, drum breaks, giant engine that had like 350 horse power...when you could buy something like a Lamborghini aventador sv that has insane horsepower and handling for the same price. Now what would you want? uh Lambo please.
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Being practical isn't what makes something valuable.
 
i dont think a lamborghini aventador sv is very practical :lol: i guess it would be for picking up wimmenz!
 
explorin said:
wouldnt the cars of long ago start dropping in price when all the old fogeys start dieing off?? i mean, there buying cars that have no technology, giant motors that dont produce alot of horse power, dont handle, but there buying them cause they couldnt when they were kids and now they have money..

i saw a mecum recently and was amazed someone would pay a million dollars for a corvette thats 70 years old, drum breaks, giant engine that had like 350 horse power...when you could buy something like a Lamborghini aventador sv that has insane horsepower and handling for the same price. Now what would you want? uh Lambo please.
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i'd take the corvette. the only reason you buy either is for showboating, and around here fancypants stupidcars are a dime a dozen. le yawn.

showboat with something that's actually rare.
 
I read somewhere once about having to unbolt a 911 engine from its mounts to change sparkplugs. Was that ever the case?
 
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