Refueling while seated?

[masameet]

Not sure if there were others, but I seem to recall at least one BARFer posting a thread about being soaked by a faulty nozzle as he was readying to gas up. Yup, he was seated too.

I gas up either seated or off the bike. If I get off the bike, it's because I'm paying in cash, the pump didn't print a receipt so I have to ask for one, or I gotta pee.

While seated and gassing up, and much to my utter disgust, I have splashed the tank a couple of times, either because the previous driver had left a little in the hose or I pulled the nozzle out a little soon. So far though I've been lucky to miss my crotch and anywhere else on my pants.

The only time I had significant spillage was years ago, when we were so grateful that the price of gas had gone back down to 2 bucks. I pulled my car into the gas station and behind a driver who, for a joke, I guess, decided to leave the bottom hook latched. So when I pulled the nozzle out and hit the 87 octane button, gas spurted out onto the ground. That big fat jerk. To this day I can still picture him glancing my way as he re-holstered the nozzle.

 

[orbframe]

Ok, so? I'm well aware of the thermal capabilities of gasoline. I was more referencing his comment about getting jacked or hit while on the bike. If someone is stupid enough to come up to steal my bike with me sitting on it holding a high pressure gasoline dispenser, more power to them. I hope they enjoy their bath. As far as getting hit goes, I guess I don't feel any different than if I was standing right next to the bike fueling it.

i was trying to be funny... i'm with you!


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[Yo!Joe!!!]

And people wonder why stupid shit happens to some people..!

 

[SpikeVFR]

that is why I said slight benefit, since it is very remote either way

I might drive away if one of the other pumps catch fire, or put her in nuetral and pad away. But no, wouldn't drive with bike on fire, not knowingly anyway. But really, how often has that ever happened to someone with a modern bike? I can't imagine there is even 10 bikes catching fire while fueling in the whole country each year. So my fear of it is remote.

I have only one memory a serious splash back, not sure what difference it would have made being on or off the bike. Happened at a gas station in Corte Madera, was happy I still had my sunglasses on. But really, it was probly less than a 1/4 cup of gas, due to a faulty nozzle that like burped a splash of gas as I was removing it from a full tank. That is in 20+ years of riding, and a couple hundred thousand miles, I just don't encouter it often.

When I started riding, I always got off, habit from the car I guess. Then years and years ago, i saw an online Squid test and one of the items was something like "fill gas tank while on the bike to get a little extra gas in the tank." And i was like, hmm, never thought of that, tried it, found it easier, stuck with it for most fill ups.

I may also depend on which bike one rides, some bikes lean more than others on the sidestand, so it may make more of a difference with some bikes than others. On my particular bike I would guess the difference in capacity is less than a pint, but never checked it.

Um dood, you have a VFR, the key's in the gas cap while you're filling up so in either case you have to remove the key and put it in the ignition.

If there's a fire and you're sitting on the bike chances are you're gonna jump off the damn thing letting it hit the ground, not helping the fire or your bike at all.

Riding away on a bike that's on fire isn't an option



(I knew I never should have clicked on this thread)

 

[SpikeVFR]

And people wonder why stupid shit happens to some people..!

You never did explain why it would be more likely to be jacked, or affect the outcome while fueling on the bike rather than off.

Nor how it could possibly increase even slightly the risk of a fire.

Or why you being off the bike would make you less likely to be hit by a car versus on the bike.

 

[weasel]

My 94' VFR caught on fire once. Luckily not at a gas station. Damn regulators.

 

[weasel]

From Pashnit...

#6.

Filling your motorcycle.

When you are filling your motorcycle please get off of your bike. Do not fill it up while sitting on it ( we are all guilty of this one even me ) because if you have a static fire you may jump off of your bike causing it to fall over and spilling gas making the fire bigger and destroying your bike. Also while fueling ( especially if your bike has a plastic gas tank ) try to make sure that the filler hose is touching the sides of the tank where you fill it. And last but not least try to keep the filler hose as close to the fuel in the tank as possible to prevent static. A little known fact is the splashing liquid creates static. A good demo of this is when you fill a bucket with a hose and the water is splashing around it IS creating static. whereas if you were to submerge the hose it is still filling the bucket but not splashing around it is not creating static.


http://www.pashnit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18451

 

[mlm]

I look at it this way, after reading a multi-page thread about pumping gas.

If you are so uncoordinated or inept that you can master the technical wizardry of the gas pump... For your own safety, you probably shouldn't be riding a motorcycle.

^^^ This

 

[ST Guy]

May also depend on what you are riding?

My ST is uber comfortable, but I still want to get off the damn thing from time to time.

And, of course, it helps that it holds damn near 7.5 gallons, so I'm not concerned with holding the bike vertical to get the last few drops in.

 

[mlm]

From Pashnit...

#6.

Filling your motorcycle.

When you are filling your motorcycle please get off of your bike. Do not fill it up while sitting on it ( we are all guilty of this one even me ) because if you have a static fire you may jump off of your bike causing it to fall over and spilling gas making the fire bigger and destroying your bike. Also while fueling ( especially if your bike has a plastic gas tank ) try to make sure that the filler hose is touching the sides of the tank where you fill it. And last but not least try to keep the filler hose as close to the fuel in the tank as possible to prevent static. A little known fact is the splashing liquid creates static. A good demo of this is when you fill a bucket with a hose and the water is splashing around it IS creating static. whereas if you were to submerge the hose it is still filling the bucket but not splashing around it is not creating static.


http://www.pashnit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18451

It's called tribocharging, and liquid on liquid probably generates a fraction of the charge you generate from mounting and dismounting your motorcycle.

There are ESD triggered fires, but after the bullshit a few years back blaming them on cell phones, the leading cause was shown to be people building a charge from entering and exiting vehicles.

The concern for being on the bike if a fire were to ignite are valid, but if you're worried about risks in that threshold you really shouldn't be riding a motorcycle.

 

[1footdown]

i guess what it comes down is this:

i will fill up my way

and you will fill up your way.

kindof like standing to pee and sitting to pee.

 

[Yo!Joe!!!]

i guess what it comes down is this:

i will fill up my way

and you will fill up your way.

kindof like standing to pee and sitting to pee.

That pretty much narrows it down..!

 

[crazybob]

You guys have no idea how dangerous this is..! What are you going to do if some fuck-tard driver hits you, what if you slip or someone tries to jack you while straddling the bike..? Not to mention the risk of fire..!

You know what I hear is dangerous? Being in the military.

Oh, and bacon-wrapped deep-fried ice cream chilli dogs.

 

[Yo!Joe!!!]

^^^ Damn hippies..!

 

[orbframe]

From Pashnit...

#6.

Filling your motorcycle.

When you are filling your motorcycle please get off of your bike. Do not fill it up while sitting on it ( we are all guilty of this one even me ) because if you have a static fire you may jump off of your bike causing it to fall over and spilling gas making the fire bigger and destroying your bike. Also while fueling ( especially if your bike has a plastic gas tank ) try to make sure that the filler hose is touching the sides of the tank where you fill it. And last but not least try to keep the filler hose as close to the fuel in the tank as possible to prevent static. A little known fact is the splashing liquid creates static. A good demo of this is when you fill a bucket with a hose and the water is splashing around it IS creating static. whereas if you were to submerge the hose it is still filling the bucket but not splashing around it is not creating static.


http://www.pashnit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18451

lol except you're not going to generate static since you're still electrically bonded to the motorcycle

 

[SlideSF]

Basically, anyone who answered this thread is unqualified to refuel at a gas station, according to the above posting (whichever is appropriate).

Except me, ha ha ha.

Right? Am I right?

Oh wait, is that your crotch? On fire?

 

[YanaBanana]

i guess what it comes down is this:

i will fill up my way

and you will fill up your way.

kindof like standing to pee and sitting to pee.

I don't stand to pee, thankyouverymuch.


I dismount the bike.
Walk inside to pay cash.
Fill up while on stand.
Go back for change if needed.
~ I'm short.

I usually go ~100 miles with a 'normal' fill-up before reserve.
Once I kept filling the tank (neck) bit by bit while it trickled into the ...void. (?)
That tankful gave me 114 miles before reserve! (I don't have a charcoal canister.)


Yana

 

[crazybob]

I don't stand to pee, thankyouverymuch.

^-- click

 

[Feanor]

I eat lunch standing up. If you can't eat while standing, then maybe you should quit eating.

There is only effectively ONE kind of thread on Barf.

1. I think "this"

2. You are wrong

3. FU!

4. Sink (if already in sink : 4 = "banned")

 

[Ironbutt]

I always gas sitting down..

Although- my only argument for NOT sitting on the bike when fueling is you're vulnerable to an attack.