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The Home Grower's Thread

Ordered!

I find the frustrating part is once you see an issue it can be days until you fiugure out what the problem is and as noted you can only mix up the watering once every few days or you're over-watering.
 
Ordered!

I find the frustrating part is once you see an issue it can be days until you fiugure out what the problem is and as noted you can only mix up the watering once every few days or you're over-watering.

I do t understand that last sentence. What kind of system are you using? How often does it water? The way you should be looking at it is the same as cooking. Start with an empty base (water or steak). Add just enough seasoning to enhance the flavor and make things work. You wouldn't put as much salt as you can handle on your food right? You put enough to help the flavor and make it right, no more. Do this and you will see a huge change. Right now you are making beef jerky by overmarinating. Go for the sous vide steak you posted the other day.
 
Thanks!

What I mean is, let's say I water the plants, and they start turning yellow. I can't do anything about it ASAP (unless it's light burn, or low humidity, or temperature or something). I need to wait until the next time the plant is dry before adding or removing nutrients. And if I make the wrong call, it's another 4-5 days before I can change it again.
 
Thanks!

What I mean is, let's say I water the plants, and they start turning yellow. I can't do anything about it ASAP (unless it's light burn, or low humidity, or temperature or something). I need to wait until the next time the plant is dry before adding or removing nutrients. And if I make the wrong call, it's another 4-5 days before I can change it again.

I disagree. If your nutes are wrong the plant is likely shutting down anyways and you are better of making an adjustment even if it means watering to much ., as long as it isnt constant
 
See, this is why I'm asking, I'm very inexperienced. I thought over-watering was bad.

So if you over-nute you can do a clear water flush anytime?
 
Yes absolutely. Overwatering is not a problem if the roots have sufficient oxygen. When I was growing hydro my plants got water three or four times a day. For now, flush, then compost tea, then light nutes and move your light up. You should see results.
 
I water when I stick my finger in and it's dry down to about the second knuckle, or if the plants start to dip it means I waited too long.

But I'm not really doing hydroponics (even though technically cococoir is)
 
I water when I stick my finger in and it's dry down to about the second knuckle, or if the plants start to dip it means I waited too long.

But I'm not really doing hydroponics (even though technically cococoir is)

Ok, this is all starting to make a little more sense now. Please explain what is and what isn't hydroponic about your system. If it is just the amount and timing of your watering then yeah that's the problem in a nutshell. You are treating them like potted plants.

The difference between growing in soil and growing in a medium where you add nutrients (hydroponics) is that the soil provides a bulk of the nutrients and you water to provide hydration, oxygen, and then amend the soil with smaller amounts of nutrients. The plants and natural biotics in the soil will break down the nutrients in the soil.

With hydroponics, you are giving them everything they need to sustain. You can't really water them once or twice a week and hope they get the nutrition they need. You need to feed them more often (like twice a day) for them to get what they need. Otherwise, you get what you got.

To use the cooking analogy again: Think of growing in soil like beef stew and hydroponics like making a consomme. With beef stew (or soil) you have a bunch of flavor enhancers built into the soup. You add some water and a little extra flavor and voila, you got soup. A little too much carrot, no problem. Not enough onion, no biggie. With consomme you need to provide the flavor, and if you go overboard on anything it will show. You need good water, a light touch on the seasoning, and a handle on technique.

So again, if you are only using the cococoir as your medium, then you really need to be watering and feeding them constantly. Otherwise, get some good soil and water once or twice a week. Either will work fine. I actually prefer soil.
 
Ok, this is all starting to make a little more sense now. Please explain what is and what isn't hydroponic about your system. If it is just the amount and timing of your watering then yeah that's the problem in a nutshell. You are treating them like potted plants.

The difference between growing in soil and growing in a medium where you add nutrients (hydroponics) is that the soil provides a bulk of the nutrients and you water to provide hydration, oxygen, and then amend the soil with smaller amounts of nutrients. The plants and natural biotics in the soil will break down the nutrients in the soil.

With hydroponics, you are giving them everything they need to sustain. You can't really water them once or twice a week and hope they get the nutrition they need. You need to feed them more often (like twice a day) for them to get what they need. Otherwise, you get what you got.

To use the cooking analogy again: Think of growing in soil like beef stew and hydroponics like making a consomme. With beef stew (or soil) you have a bunch of flavor enhancers built into the soup. You add some water and a little extra flavor and voila, you got soup. A little too much carrot, no problem. Not enough onion, no biggie. With consomme you need to provide the flavor, and if you go overboard on anything it will show. You need good water, a light touch on the seasoning, and a handle on technique.

So again, if you are only using the cococoir as your medium, then you really need to be watering and feeding them constantly. Otherwise, get some good soil and water once or twice a week. Either will work fine. I actually prefer soil.

Thanks a lot!


Man I am totally off I'm amazed they made it this far...I'll re-water the coco tonight. I am going to switch back to soil for the next grow.'

Do you think they'll survive to the end of flowering?

No wonder the soil ones are doing better
 
Thanks a lot!


Man I am totally off I'm amazed they made it this far...I'll re-water the coco tonight. I am going to switch back to soil for the next grow.'

Do you think they'll survive to the end of flowering?

No wonder the soil ones are doing better

Yeah man. And if they are just in the cococoir, they can pretty much always be wet. You just don't want them saturated or sitting in water. I suggest a quick flush (I'm now thinking they aren't getting enough), then mix up some bloom at the standard rate and feed them every day. Think of them like a cat.
 
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Hell yeah mike, that's solid info... I'm liking what's going on in this thread :)
 
I hope to do better next grow. I'm going to try some feminized autoflowering seeds

I don't recommend it. My experience may be a bit dated. But years ago when I was in college I had a chance to go to Amsterdam. I managed to smuggle back a few seeds. One variety was the cannabis cup winner that year (Northern Lights #5 X Haze). That shit was amazing. My buddy I were both biology majors and growing in our closets. We kept a couple of males and hand pollinated and did some pretty cool shit.

Another variety was feminized. I've never seen so many hermaphrodites. The way I see it is that plants want to reproduce. If you feminize it, it is more likely to produce male flowers. I could be wrong, but it was my experience.

Stick with clones for a while. They are easier and you don't have to worry about starting them and sexing etc.

That said, I'd be interested in splitting some seeds sometime.
 
What week of flower is this? If you gave to much nutrients then just a flush with ph water should get you back on track. I cut nutes off 2 weeks before harvest and just feed ph water only. The browning isn't "normal" for say, this is you're second or first grow? My last grow started to get burn the last 1.5 weeks, but what I thought was burn turned into purplish and different colors haha.

That shit looks great. I want some.:rolleyes
 
Ok so I just flushed the two coco plants with PH balanced water, and I'm letting them drain before I add the nutrients.

One of the two soil plants is also yellowing, I watered it last night with only PH balanced water, should I water it again with more nutrients or wait till the next watering?
 
I don't recommend it. My experience may be a bit dated. But years ago when I was in college I had a chance to go to Amsterdam. I managed to smuggle back a few seeds. One variety was the cannabis cup winner that year (Northern Lights #5 X Haze). That shit was amazing. My buddy I were both biology majors and growing in our closets. We kept a couple of males and hand pollinated and did some pretty cool shit.

Another variety was feminized. I've never seen so many hermaphrodites. The way I see it is that plants want to reproduce. If you feminize it, it is more likely to produce male flowers. I could be wrong, but it was my experience.

Stick with clones for a while. They are easier and you don't have to worry about starting them and sexing etc.

That said, I'd be interested in splitting some seeds sometime.

I have 12 feminized autoflower 2 varieties and 10 bonus "random" seeds.

ALso a ton of ones I've picked out of normal weed.
 
That shit looks great. I want some.:rolleyes

I'll come deliver some to you Next weekend.. it's 100% organic, I'm pretty proud of my crop. Jordan if you want some pm me I'll hook you up :) stoners unite :teeth


How did you grow in college? CFL and closer grow?
 
Harborside in Oakland has good clones and also this place called pnp gardens has 5 dollar clones. Just incase you decide to go that route at some point
 
Ok so I just flushed the two coco plants with PH balanced water, and I'm letting them drain before I add the nutrients.

One of the two soil plants is also yellowing, I watered it last night with only PH balanced water, should I water it again with more nutrients or wait till the next watering?

Take a picture. They usually yellow during flowering so I wouldn't worry. But if it looks anything like your other ones, then yeah. Also a little trick I learned is that if you give them a little sugar water in the last few weeks, they will flower nicely.

I'll come deliver some to you Next weekend.. it's 100% organic, I'm pretty proud of my crop. Jordan if you want some pm me I'll hook you up :) stoners unite :teeth


How did you grow in college? CFL and closer grow?

I started with a 175 watt metal halide that I could switch out to a 150 watt HPS for flowering. My buddy did fluorescents for one batch, then saw my results and bought a 400 watt HPS. Those were fun times.

Later, I converted my entire bedroom into a big grow and moved into my livingroom, with a 10X 10 ebb and flow table and a 1000 watts of HPS on a light track. That was a great setup until my landlord needed to come in LOL.

My favorite though was when we were doing our own breeding. I developed this plant I called Pineapple. It was definitely more of the Haze side of things. It grew very tall and lanky with these little pineapple shaped buds. It smelled kind of pineapple/ lemon. And it was the happiest weed I ever saw. That shit gave me a reputation. I had people driving two hours for it. Then I gave up that life and became a serious person and lost the strain.

Dammmmmitttttttttt
 
Take a picture. They usually yellow during flowering so I wouldn't worry. But if it looks anything like your other ones, then yeah. Also a little trick I learned is that if you give them a little sugar water in the last few weeks, they will flower nicely.



I started with a 175 watt metal halide that I could switch out to a 150 watt HPS for flowering. My buddy did fluorescents for one batch, then saw my results and bought a 400 watt HPS. Those were fun times.

Later, I converted my entire bedroom into a big grow and moved into my livingroom, with a 10X 10 ebb and flow table and a 1000 watts of HPS on a light track. That was a great setup until my landlord needed to come in LOL.

My favorite though was when we were doing our own breeding. I developed this plant I called Pineapple. It was definitely more of the Haze side of things. It grew very tall and lanky with these little pineapple shaped buds. It smelled kind of pineapple/ lemon. And it was the happiest weed I ever saw. That shit gave me a reputation. I had people driving two hours for it. Then I gave up that life and became a serious person and lost the strain.

Dammmmmitttttttttt

FUCKING RAD!!!! I just got a 1k hps excited to see what I can make happen this time around. Its really fun, I eventually want to try and cross breed. Any wise words?
 
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