Eldritch
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Yeah, Latavius is legit, Richardson just gives some added depth with an opportunity for enough carries to give a real shit about his game. I think it is not a bad sign at that price.
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Yeah, Latavius is legit, Richardson just gives some added depth with an opportunity for enough carries to give a real shit about his game. I think it is not a bad sign at that price.
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
lol, 'Dr. Maroon'...judge for yourself what you think of his statements
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...-steelers-neurosurgeon-nfl-medical-consultant
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...-steelers-neurosurgeon-nfl-medical-consultant
Bay Arean
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Yeah, I don't buy Doc's statement either. We just don't want something to be true.
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
I have two nephews playing football, and I surely don't want it to be as endemic as it is appearing to be. both play linebacker like their dad did, and I enjoy watching them hit. one also plays RB and I believe he hits with his head harder at that position than at LB...his dad rags on him about leading with his head, but it is effective.
Bay Arean
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Well, to me, there is some kind of desperate irony to it. Borland's stats were number one and he is the dude thinking it through. No, you don't get to make incredible dollars, pound the shit out of your body and come out intact, would seem to be the message. The story in yesterday's paper gave context with former Niner Gary Plummer talking frankly about his early onset dementia.
If you have a heart for these dudes, despite their fame and $$$$, it's hard to feel good about the sport. Until you forget again and get back to the action.
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That's just it. I empathize with them in the off season. During the season I want to see them smash each other.
Eldritch
is insensitive
Tell that to Howie Long and Michael Strahan, or if you really think you have the stones, try to tell it to Chuck Bednarik.
The reality is, not all guys are made of the same stuff. You ever see Fedor Emelianenko fight? I think one of his primary tactics was letting the opponent get exhausted by punching him in the head. Never seen a jaw that tough in my life. The reality here is not that Football destroys men, but rather it has the potential to destroy them, like any real sport. Maybe there are guys with good athletic ability, but not the durability to stay in the sport for the long haul. I fully support those guys getting out while they are still intact, but a lot of men are made of harder stuff, the sort of gristle that will allow them to issue punishment and soak it up year after year for a whole career without any side of the neurological side effects that are hyped up now. Those kind of warriors are the guys this sport is made for anyway and I expect they will keep playing it in the name of glory.
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
^Your stance is very inspiring and romantic, but that belongs in a Danielle Stelle novel or a film by Steve Sabol (may he RIP); not real life.
I;m sure you realize by now that skull thickness has nothing to do with it; the brain still has a bit of fluid in between it and the inside of the skull. CTE is caused by the brain moving through that small bit of fluid space in between it and bashing into the inside of the skull. there are no 'tough brains'.
translations:
durability = able to function with multiple head traumas and were already head-cases before the traumas.
harder stuff = inability to recognize the differences caused by multiple trauma
without any neurological side effects = was already drooling before football.
those kind of warriors = those freely willing to sacrifice the rest of their lives for a massive amount of money...the good news is, there will be more roster spots in the near future for those who don't care about their longevity as a human being.
I;m sure you realize by now that skull thickness has nothing to do with it; the brain still has a bit of fluid in between it and the inside of the skull. CTE is caused by the brain moving through that small bit of fluid space in between it and bashing into the inside of the skull. there are no 'tough brains'.
translations:
durability = able to function with multiple head traumas and were already head-cases before the traumas.
harder stuff = inability to recognize the differences caused by multiple trauma
without any neurological side effects = was already drooling before football.
those kind of warriors = those freely willing to sacrifice the rest of their lives for a massive amount of money...the good news is, there will be more roster spots in the near future for those who don't care about their longevity as a human being.
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Bay Arean
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I wouldn't have a problem telling those dudes, except they'd be annoyed hearing something they already know and have seen all around them. They might be suffering silently, who knows.
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
you are right. not 100%. only 96% of nfl players examined as of Sep 2014. is this 4% the 'warriors' of the nfl then? does 4% invalidate the argument that playing football at a high level causes brain damage?
and just under 80% of people known to have played at least high school ball.
I wonder what the % of deceased non-nfl people are, in comparison? 96% too? maybe...6%? maybe 0.6%?
as Stephen Jackson used to say: c'mon man!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...ased-nfl-players-found-to-have-brain-disease/
edit: this data is skewed towards people who suspected they had it and then donated their brains upon death...but the data is not false.
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Eldritch
is insensitive
That fucking data is so grossly agenda skewed towards your false statement it is absurd. They weren't even all pro players, some of them were high school football guys and like you said, these were guys who ALREADY SUSPECTED THEY HAD BRAIN DAMAGE. I mean, for fucks sake, how many guys who actually played football at a high school or higher level do you know? There simply is NOT a 96% occurrence of traumatic long term brain disease amongst professional football players. Those statistics are patently false.
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
c'mon man. why do you get so upset about this? You must understand the difference between skewed data and falsified data, but you let your emotions take over. Why is this so hard to accept? Constantly bashing anything, including your brain, causes long term effects!
The study doesn't say 'if you play football, you have a 96% chance of getting CTE! It says 'of the brains submitted to us voluntarily, 96% of them showed CTE.' Those people only THOUGHT they had brain damage...they didn't KNOW. this study confirmed it for a staggering amount of them. Just take your time and read what they say. You are the one who said I am assuming 100% likelihood; that is YOUR assumption.
Eldritch
is insensitive
No, dingus, I was not saying that the report said 96% football players got brain damage, I was saying YOU WERE IMPLYING that 96% of players got it based on that report, which was an incorrect representation of the data. The reality is MOST Professional Football Players DO NOT have long term traumatic brain disease as a result of playing football. Certainly of the TENS OF MILLIONS of Americans that play or have played real football with pads and helmets (from Pee Wee on up) almost NONE of them have long term traumatic brain injury as a result.
Do impact and contact sports such as Boxing, MMA and Football increase your risk of long term traumatic brain injury? Unquestionably they increase the risk, which is so obvious as to not even require a statistical validation. Are you likely to get long term traumatic brain injury because you participate in those sports, NO YOU ARE NOT. There is NO statistical evidence to show that you will probably have brain damage if you play football. None whatsoever and to suggest as much is just a bunch of buzzword hype BS. You are much more likely to have missing teeth as a Professional Hockey Player than to have traumatic Brain Injury as a Professional Football Player. It happens to some guys and it sucks, that is for sure, but the popular media hysterics on this issue these days are ridiculous.
Bowling4Bikes
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Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
anyways, yeah that discussion does distract from regular football talk after all.
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Frankly, as a fan, who cares? These people get paid a lot of money to jeopardize their health. 1.9 million a year on average. Thats a lot more than the average coal miner makes, ($83,000) where black lung deaths have risen to a 40 year high in 2014 in the US. No one gives a shit about that. So lets keep things real. Football players need to shut the fuck up and play, or quit and shut the fuck up and do something else.
you know with that said, and given the rate of incarceration for the "contestants".....
this could just be a prelude to a "Running Man" TV Show!
Niners should draft this guy.
Bowling4Bikes
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no way they would...he was innocent
Eldritch
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Well, since they are the three most interesting teams to me in this thread let's have some calls made.
Niners: Championship caliber team that appears to have completley disintegrated in the off season after struggling last year due to failed leadership and internal politics
NY Giants: Mediocre at best last year, an absolute horror story of injuries and one megastar rookie that started late (injury also) gives this team hope that this next season can be better (if healthy?), despite what appears to be glaring holes on both sides of the line and a typically inactive free agent season.
Raiders - Clearly the worst of the bunch last year, the very exciting development of young talent on this long troubled franchise gives the strong feeling that this is a team turning the corner and it may be able to explode onto the scene of real competitiors next year, but does the ghost of Al Davis somehow still inflict his Loser's Curse on the new era?
So how about some predictions? Call it, who will have the best, worst and middle record of the three. Care to call an end of season standing?
WHAT SAY YOU?
Niners: Championship caliber team that appears to have completley disintegrated in the off season after struggling last year due to failed leadership and internal politics
NY Giants: Mediocre at best last year, an absolute horror story of injuries and one megastar rookie that started late (injury also) gives this team hope that this next season can be better (if healthy?), despite what appears to be glaring holes on both sides of the line and a typically inactive free agent season.
Raiders - Clearly the worst of the bunch last year, the very exciting development of young talent on this long troubled franchise gives the strong feeling that this is a team turning the corner and it may be able to explode onto the scene of real competitiors next year, but does the ghost of Al Davis somehow still inflict his Loser's Curse on the new era?
So how about some predictions? Call it, who will have the best, worst and middle record of the three. Care to call an end of season standing?
WHAT SAY YOU?