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The Official 2015/2016 NFL Thread

Eldritch said:
:teeth I have to say, I hope high hopes for a terrific era of broken rebuilding in the City of Brotherly Loathe.



Essentially, yes, but my point is that no one is going to pay that much for a guy that is a question mark after 4/1. For $15 mill you get Raperburger, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning guys that are proven top 10 dudes. For a few million more you get Peyton. Hell, Brady is a few million less than what Kaep will cost next year, but he is not playing for money now, just legacy. The point is that when you could buy RGIII or Blake Bortles for like HALF of what Kaep costs, why the fuck would you invest in a year of Kaep to find out if he is worth keeping around at that price? You just buy a cheaper project QB or you draft and hope for the best. That is the problem with the deal, right now, Kaep is a project QB at Franchise QB prices. That makes him seriously hands off for a trade.

I know Mike keeps talking about how team friendly the contract is, but that is only for a team that has made a commitment to him as a Franchise guy. ANy other team would only buy him with a, "let him play for a year and see ho whe does," mentality and the cost to do that for him is like 6-7 mill over what other guys like that are going for. No other team in their right mind would commit to a franchise guy with a big question mark over his head at that price when they could buy Mark Sanchez for like 1/3 and see how that works out, but then again, the Eagles did just trade Nick Foles and a First rounder for Sam Bradford :wtf.
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There may be questions surrounding Kap. But there is no way in hell he's valued on the same level as RGIII, Bortles, and Sanchez. He may look a bit pricey as a try-out for a year deal. But the beauty of the contract is that's exactly all you have to cough up. His contract doesn't force a team to cough up a bunch of money beyond the single year if they don't want to.

I appreciate the numbers you threw out there for what you consider top tier QB. I'd counter that the likes of Romo and Cutler are getting the same and even more. In the balance I'd say it's not a huge risk. And relative to the current market there is value in teams exploring it. Far more than you seem to give it.
 
wazzuFreddo said:
Pretty crazy. 11 arrests for the 49ers since 2012 according to the news tonight.

Not even the Raiders can keep up that kind of pace.
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dude, seriously?

you're taking offense over 11 arrests? between your trailer park relatives and beaner in-laws that's like one quinceanera in your family :p

Eldritch said:
:teeth I have to say, I hope high hopes for a terrific era of broken rebuilding in the City of Brotherly Loathe.
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chip begs to differ

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I am officially confused. Where is Mariota going now???? I thought that was the whole Philly deal...but I heard they already spent too much....

PS. that video of Farley just grosses me out.....yikes.
 
CocoLoco said:
There may be questions surrounding Kap. But there is no way in hell he's valued on the same level as RGIII, Bortles, and Sanchez. He may look a bit pricey as a try-out for a year deal. But the beauty of the contract is that's exactly all you have to cough up. His contract doesn't force a team to cough up a bunch of money beyond the single year if they don't want to.

I appreciate the numbers you threw out there for what you consider top tier QB. I'd counter that the likes of Romo and Cutler are getting the same and even more. In the balance I'd say it's not a huge risk. And relative to the current market there is value in teams exploring it. Far more than you seem to give it.
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I'm sure some of it is the New York Giant talking in me. We are a team notorious for being stingy and risk averse. Now, I understand that Kaep has a bigger potential upside than Sanchez or Bortles, but the question you really have to ask as a GM is, is it 7-10 million dollars a year bigger? All those things about the performance vs. contract things considered, when we are talking a trade you have to consider that the Niners will ALSO want something juicy in return for for dude on top of that. I just don't see that deal getting done to the satisfaction of two professional teams without a contract restructure. It is not a terible deal for the Niners, because he is already in place and like Mike said, it is friendly to your team in the long term, I have a hard time seeing another team paying top dollar to be put in the same position though.

I kind of feel like if Baalke didn't demand a 1st rounder for dude in the trade, it would undermine faith in the purchase. When you look at it like that and you figure the buyer would pay a 1st round, why wouldn't they instead wrangle a deal to draft Winston or Mariota and get a guy with a nice soft Rookie Deal they could manage?

postcholo said:
chip begs to differ

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:laughing The horror, the horror. But yeah.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2392749-is-chip-kelly-planning-to-trade-for-marcus-mariota

LOL!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...marcus-mariota-potential-2015-nfl-draft-trade

I personally thought that Maclin, DeSean and LeSean were one of the most terrifying assemblies of Offensive Weapons gathered on to a team in recent history. I just kept hoping and keeping my fingers crossed that Philly would squander those weapons on born losers like McNabb and Vick, which they did. When I saw Foles come out and play the way he did his first season, I was sure they had found the missing piece to the best Offense since Warner and the Rams. Now a mere two years later, that whole Offensive has been dismantled and I have to say I am kind of breathing a sigh of relief.
 
I mean, you said yourself that Philly just paid Foles AND a high draft pick for 1 year of Sam Bradford @ 13M.

You really think Kaep isn't worth what Bradford is? Bradford gets hurt if he sneezes wrong.


Speaking of Philly, they're signing Murray.

also rumor has it Tampa is giving up a 2nd rounder to Minnesota for Adrian Peterson. Wow.
 
mikev said:
I mean, you said yourself that Philly just paid Foles AND a high draft pick for 1 year of Sam Bradford @ 13M.

You really think Kaep isn't worth what Bradford is? Bradford gets hurt if he sneezes wrong.

Speaking of Philly, they're signing Murray.

also rumor has it Tampa is giving up a 2nd rounder to Minnesota for Adrian Peterson. Wow.
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I also said Philly is imploding in a retarded fashion that even puzzles the Divine. Murray is a nice sign for them though.
 
He originally was going to Philly, then decided against it and went to the Colts.

Better move for him IMO. Much better chance at a ring.
 
Ah okay. I was just looking it up and people are making gags at his great career with the Eagles.
 
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