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Walking Dead season 5

revnort said:
What makes you think he isn't trust worthy? You just met him.
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For the most part, every group that Rick has come across has either assimilated into his group or has suffered casualties or destruction from Ricks group. As such anyone who knows Rick by name is more likely to be from or related to a group or individual killed by Rick or Ricks group. As such suspicion of anyone they do not know but knows them is reasonable IMO.
 
kongjie said:
Not sure, but my feeling is that you would have to set up something like a mini-still--like when people boil salt water to extract fresh--and it would require staying in one place for quite a while to extract a relatively small amount of potable water. A liter of 100 proof spirits is 50 percent alcohol so you would at most get 500ml from it, and who knows how long that would take. They are on the move and it wouldn't be viable.

My question after seeing this episode is: How do walkers get water? I haven't thought a whole lot about how they function but wouldn't they dry out really quickly, assuming they didn't have fresh corpses to feed on?
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It would be wise to not question Zombie biology too much. Yes though they have stated as they get older the get weaker.

My900ss said:
For the most part, every group that Rick has come across has either assimilated into his group or has suffered casualties or destruction from Ricks group. As such anyone who knows Rick by name is more likely to be from or related to a group or individual killed by Rick or Ricks group. As such suspicion of anyone they do not know but knows them is reasonable IMO.
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This is true. In fact, if you knew of him or his group wouldn't you be smart not to approach them unarmed? The TV show has been making the point that Rick's group seems like a threat to outsiders.

Nobody in the hospital took their offer to come with remember.
 
good point on the alcohol... Figure if you are going to be staying in one spot it might be an option... I dont drink anymore so my first thought was use it for wounds or try to make it clean for drinking.... but if there were zombies around i might need a drink haha


and Rick and the crew are now 500 miles away from anyone or anything familiar.. so I have a hard time believing the clean cut dude knows him from ATL
 
1sicv8 said:
...and Rick and the crew are now 500 miles away from anyone or anything familiar.. so I have a hard time believing the clean cut dude knows him from ATL
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How would you know this? Based on recent events I would say it would be difficult to pinpoint where they currently are with any certainty?
 
My900ss said:
How would you know this? Based on recent events I would say it would be difficult to pinpoint where they currently are with any certainty?
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Yes it is. They were outside of Richmond VA (Noah's neighborhood). At which point they said it was 100 miles to DC. Which it is. Ricmond is about 500 miles from ATL.

They have been traveling from there towards DC. They said how far they were in the last episode (I believe they said 60 miles out).
 
revnort said:
Yes it is. They were outside of Richmond VA (Noah's neighborhood). At which point they said it was 100 miles to DC. Which it is. Ricmond is about 500 miles from ATL.

They have been traveling from there towards DC. They said how far they were in the last episode (I believe they said 60 miles out).
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Ok, yet while in Richmond where was Carroll, Darrell, Judith etc? They traveled back to wherever the main group was to bury those lost in Richmond. So I would submit that we do not know where they started from, as it was not Richmond, nor how far they have gotten.
 
My900ss said:
Ok, yet while in Richmond where was Carroll, Darrell, Judith etc? They traveled back to wherever the main group was to bury those lost in Richmond. So I would submit that we do not know where they started from, as it was not Richmond, nor how far they have gotten.
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You are right you can't tell exactly where they are. It is approximate. My guess is that they are coming up the western side of VA. Right near the Culpepper area. That's where my sister lives.

Think Rick said the rest of the group was X minutes out in that first episode. Doesn't really matter though. They drove for a bit too.

I will say though in the comic that they were coming from a different direction. At least they stop by a landmark that wouldn't make sense if coming directly south from where they end up. Actually it would be a stupid way for them to go coming from any direction. I am from the area so I am picky about these sorts of things. :laughing

The cast and set are also still in GA. In fact I just saw a semi-spoiler that said what they were doing with a set in GA. Not much of spoiler as I generally know where they are headed in terms of the comic anyway.
 
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Assuming a 12 minute walking mile, and say they're constantly on the move aside from 8 hours of sleep a night, that's 5 miles an hour times 16 hours, but let's say 14 hours for regular 30 minute breaks every few hours. 14*5 is still 70 miles they could potentially cover in one day at a decent pace. Let's say they only travel for a speed of 15 minutes walking, for 4 miles an hour. And let's say they only spend 12 hours traveling, and 4 hours taking breaks / scavenging. That's still 48 miles a day they could be covering. There's no morbidly obese people in their group and I've seen people in far worse shape both from exhaustion or from lack of fitness walk a 22 minute 2-mile so I think 15 minutes for someone lean and mean like them is reasonable. They're not carrying a lot either.

As for the barn, now I know where mythbusters got the idea to test that one - and the zombies would have gotten in pretty easily the way they tested.
 
NorCalAthlete said:
That's still 48 miles a day they could be covering.
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IMHO that's way out of line for exhausted, hungry, and thirsty people who have to be hyperaware of a number of threats, living and undead. Plus keep in mind they frequently have to take considerable detours to avoid walkers, which puts them in overgrown brush.
 
kongjie said:
IMHO that's way out of line for exhausted, hungry, and thirsty people who have to be hyperaware of a number of threats, living and undead. Plus keep in mind they frequently have to take considerable detours to avoid walkers, which puts them in overgrown brush.
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Agree. They are also apparently taking backroads, which is not the most direct route.

Not to mention if you've ever been in that part of the country it is HOT and humid. It would take a lot to be walking in the middle of the day.
 
I have been. And done plenty of rucking through underbrush. Yet every time we see them they're on a main road, then diverting; main road, car dies; main road, road block...they only dip into the underbrush to avoid traps and major stuff. Even with that I can see them doing a decent mileage.

My analysis was mainly more to try and estimate how much time has supposedly passed.
 
NorCalAthlete said:
Yet every time we see them they're on a main road, then diverting; main road, car dies; main road, road block...
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Can't argue with that. I was just thinking about the stuff we don't see LOL.

While we're on the subject of cars dying, you would think it wouldn't be that hard to find one that still works of the thousands on the road. Find a standard that could be push-started, get some fuel from another one, get some jumper cables and start up a second, etc. etc.
 
Whats it been since Z-day? 2 years? I would think every car would have 4 flat tires and a dead battery. Better carry a foot pump and a solar charger.
 
Motha. Fucking. BICYCLES.

Seriously, you couldn't rig up one of those 3 wheelers for carrying shit? Mountain bikes for scouting? Wouldn't be too hard to double back if you had to stash them in the woods to go around a road block once you clear the area. You'd more than make up for the lost time. Hell, it's kinda tempting to just take a week or so off and see how long it would actually take to bicycle from ATL to DC.
 
How do you think the writers meeting went when it came time to shoot the scene where everyone was eating dog meat? "For the love of god, DO NOT show Glen eating dog!" :laughing

Great episode overall. We definitely got to see a different side of the group.
 
Mighty fucking convenient that as they decline to drink water, it suddenly starts raining; right as they're complaining about hunger and no food/supplies, a pack of dogs - which, to my memory, we haven't seen up to this point as a thing (packs of dogs) - suddenly appears for food.

Of course, if dogs have been surviving by feeding on the zombies...how are they not zombies/dead from eating that? If it's one of those "well, you already have the virus, so you can't get sick from it" things then...why not just roast up a zombie when you need some food? Might be more akin to jerkey than real meat, but if that's the universe logic we're going with...
 
i don't think the dogs are eating the walkers. it seems to me dogs have better instincts than that and have reverted back to being more wolf like. in a group they are strong and in no real need to pick off random walkers when they could stalk live meat. kill it, and eat it. sasha capping them as pretty awesome though! it almost made up for her pulling a Tyreese and wading into the group trying to commit suicide by walker. the result of that has yet to be revealed.
 
Loki1000R said:
i don't think the dogs are eating the walkers. it seems to me dogs have better instincts than that and have reverted back to being more wolf like.
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Probably the dogs could right from the start smell that there was something very wrong with an infected person and thus many of them would survive while their owners would die. Naturally they would form packs and then likely hunt deer, considering their abundance in and around suburbia. I'm sure if we were watching every day of their struggle, the group would run into dogs a lot more often. But it would be redundant and boring to show it all the time, just like there would be no story if they could just drive an hour to DC.
 
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