BARF Militia

[Eisernkreuz]

How'd he aquire a fully automatic SKS? Aren't those illegal?

Eh, I think they're bullshitting, it was probably a semi-auto fired very rapidly. I mean, the guy was trained in the USMC, he's probably really good behind the trigger.

 

[zefflyn]

Yeah, and maybe I'm a chinese jet pilot.

Not dissing the Corps, but just because a guy got in, doesn't mean he's anything special. And this fellow, by his actions, proves that he was sub-standard.

 

[Ratters]

How'd he aquire a fully automatic SKS? Aren't those illegal?

I don't believe there is any shuch thing.

Sad. Why can't people just kill themselves and be done with it.

 

[zefflyn]

Kids these day's just can't take responsibility for themselves.

 

[atek3]

dude, going to iraq sucks. Maybe not blow away 3 cops, sucks, but still, really really sucky.

atek3

 

[zefflyn]

I know, it's just too bad the idiot joined the Marine Corps, instead of applying at McD's, which probably would have suited him more.

"I don't like fighting or doing anything hard, so I'll join the Marines! It'll be like getting free money for hanging out and drinking! They better not order me around too much, though, I hate doing what I'm supposed to do."

 

[J-]

From a Soldier

From another Forum
Long read but worth it.
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I wrote, and continue to write this as an account of some of the things I have been through here in Iraq. I wasn't sure if I should post it, but decided what the hell...I can't think of a better group to share it with. It's long, but read it if you give a damn.

Well, I am still here in Iraq, and with reguards to this war, I can say I have seen and done some amazing things.

I've seen both cowards and heroes both young and old
Been both confident and terrified, both at the same time
I've grown to love and hate people with a fierce passion
I've given food to the starving, and water to the thirsty
I've seen the pain and uncertainty in a man, woman, and child's face right before they died
I've seen the terror in a man's face when my weapon was pointed at his head
I've looked a man in the eyes right before I put a sandbag over his head
I've tasted the burn of OC/pepper spray as I sprayed a man in the face
I've learned Arabic from a 12 year old girl who was my friend
I've waved hello back at so many passing cars, I felt like I was famous
I've been on TV 4 times, then watched the media tell lies about us
I've been in 3 papers, and was amazed at the innacuracy of my story
I've seen dozens of marriages fall apart on both ends
I've seen Iraqis cry, they were so happy that we were here
I've had Iraqis swear me up and down because I had to search them
I've heard the launch of mortar rounds as they left the tube
I've seen those same mortar rounds blow up around me and my friends
I had a friend show me pictures of his kids, and get killed the very next day
I've heard the pop-pop-pop of gunfire, and then the ping-ping-ping as it hit around me
I've seen people afraid to pull the trigger, and not kill...and I've seen people kill when they shouldn't have pulled the trigger
I've seen men in the cross hairs of the scope mounted on my rifle and I've pulled the trigger so they will never ever be seen again
I've laid countless hours on my cot trying to sleep but couldn't, because the helicopters were to loud, explosions were to close, their was to much gunfire
I've taken prisoners, guarded prisoners, and released prisoners
I've lost weight because my stomach couldn't handle the food here
I've knocked on people's doors, kicked down people's doors, and almost shot off someone's door
I've sat on a rooftop for 53 days straight looking for bad guys, and learned what patience really is
I've lost all sense of privacy, but grew closer than a brother with my squad and platoon
I've cleaned my weapon more than I have cleaned my clothes, because it was more important
I've learned to appreciate all the things I once took for granted
I've never worked so hard and got paid so little in my life, but even still worked harder
I've watched videos of Nick Berg getting his head sawed off his body while he screamed, and never wanted to kill so bad in my life
I remember when a young kid that called us "sadiq-i" (friend) brought us food each day at a checkpoint, and remember when a suicide bomber killed him and 18 other people days later
I remember a crazy lady telling me lies to waste my time for no reason
I remember a pretty girl secretly waving hello to me so nobody would see, fearing ridicule
I remember the screams of people when a restraunt exploded with innocent people inside
I'll never forget the smell of burning flesh for as long as I live...ever
I've seen Iraqi people fight alongside us one minute, then fight against us the next
I've captured dozens of weapons, some of which were gold plated
I've been in a car accident that would've killed me if I wasn't riding in an armored hummer
I've smiled and scowled, laughed and yelled at different crowds of people
I've seen a 13 year old prostitute bring money home to her father to live
I've smelled the crisp air of a new morning, and the soot and stench of cordite the next morning
I've been so hot, that I stopped sweating and my body started to shut down
I've been so tired and worn out, but still couldn't sleep for days at a time
I've seen people accidently shoot their weapons and almost kill people, and I've seen people intentionally shoot their weapons and kill people
I've never counted or carried so much ammunition in my life, and I've been around the world more than once or twice with the military
I've sat back and enjoyed an ice cold Coke, and other times I've called on the radio begging for a resupply of water and food because we were starving literally
I've seen guys "baby" their weapons, and I've seen guys treat them like hell, fully knowing it was the only thing that might save their lives
I've said "I hate here" a thousand times, and heard it said a million more times
I've seen a platoon leader curl up in the fetal position out of terror during a firefight, and a private in that same platoon fight like a savage for his life
I've seen a medic choke-up and not be able to do his job, and an infantryman next to him bandage up a wounded child
I've had kids throw rocks at me because I didn't have any chocolate candy to give them
I almost shot a 14 year old kid that pulled a gun on another kid, the toys look very real here
I've seen kids play in a virtual minefield of explosives and ordinance like they were at Disneyland
I've heard shots fired and hit the ground, ducked, jumped behind cover, and flat out ignored them
I've seen "new guys" in units come here so scared they point their guns at everything they see
I've been on missions so long, that I've come back to my FOB (base camp) with a full beard
I've sat up late at night waiting for a friend to come back from a patrol that got hit, like a parent waits for their child who's been out all night
I've made best of friends with a 17 year old kid, and a 47 year old man, and talked to both like we were old highschool buddies
I've cleaned my friend's blood off of his equipment, and turned it in because he was killed in an explosion hours before
I've seen enough different people's body parts, that I could put them all together and make a completely new body with them
I've laughed and joked with Australian soldiers, had conversations with British soldiers, and drank chi (tea) with Arab soldiers
I've seen how well our bulletproof vest work, and they do stop bullets
I've read the bible and figured I am in, or near the 'Garden of Eden'; but it hardly looks like paradise to me
I've seen fisherman fishing, kids swimming, boats and dead bodies floating in the Tigris River
I've asked myself dozens of times "Why am I here", but I know the answer, and I know if asked...I'd come back again no question
I've missed my family and still do, and I regret not spending as much time with them as I should've before I left
I've figured out who my real friends are back home, because they have taken the time to write me a letter or an e-mail
I felt sold out by my chain of command because I made a decision to shoot, and sat through an 'inquisition' for making a judgement call that I would again
I've gone on my 2 weeks of R&R and enjoyed the downtime, however was anxious to get back to this strange place
I've been to far too many memorial services of our fallen brothers, and choked up everytime, even if silently so nobody could tell
I've seen an enemy sniper cause so much pandamonia, that without a shot being fired the sniper was winning a psycological victory over us
I've traded 'war stories' with my best friend who worked in the private sector up north through countless e-mails
I've been disgusted by the double standard that I have seen day in and day out
I've lost a friend to an enemy sniper's bullet and felt helpless
I've been given a urinalyses test because people were doing drugs over here
I've seen the Iraqi people respect the military, and I've seen them totally disreguard our presence and "walk all over us"
I've searched a car we stopped in sector and found an Oklahoma license plate in the trunk with '04 tag stickers on it
I've felt my stomach knot and my heart skip a beat when a vehicle speeding by, cut his wheel and came directly at me...I was going to be blown-up for sure I thought
I've been terribly sick, but continued to work and patrol through it...mission first
I've gotten packages and letters from people I don't know, and a smile was brought to my face each time
I've had my comfort zone tested and violated by these people time and time again
I've had Iraqis throw fireworks at me on New Years, thinking it was funny that I couldn't tell it wasn't a gunshot
I've come to the conclusion that some soldiers here will return home by the grace of God, and other soldiers will come home simply because the man to the left or right of him did their job
I've seen lousy soldiers awarded medals for no reason at all, and other soldiers who rightfully deserved recognition for gallantry under fire passed over with not even a pat on the back
I've seen the clear difference between competence and arrogance in my leadership

 

[KIDRR]

Hey if any of you guys want/need a pellet or BB gun check out my ad over in the grab bag section

 

[Tom2]

Kids these day's just can't take responsibility for themselves.

werd

 

[ScorpioVI]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibd/20050112/bs_ibd_ibd/2005111issues

Shot In The Dark

Tue Jan 11, 7:00 PM ET

Ibd

Crime: The most pre-eminent scientific group in America has produced a definitive analysis of our decades-long experience with gun control and shattered what has become an article of faith among proponents.

The 328-page report by the National Academy of Sciences (news - web sites) is based on 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications, a survey of 80 gun-control laws and some of its own independent study.


It could find no evidence to support the conclusion that government restrictions on firearms reduces gun crime, gun violence and gun accidents.


As noted by John Lott Jr., resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and frequent contributor to this page, this stunning indictment of the ineffectiveness of gun-control laws was produced by a panel set up during the Clinton administration. All but one of its members were known before their appointments to favor gun control. No NRA shills here.


Lott credits the report for pointing out the obvious: Criminals who use guns to break laws will break laws to use guns. He also notes that the report failed to include in its analysis how gun-ownership restrictions may restrict defensive uses of firearms and endanger potential victims.


Hale DeMar of Wilmette, Ill., recently faced criminal charges for the successful defense of his family from a felon who invaded his home not once, but twice. Seems he violated Wilmette's handgun ban.


Suppose DeMar obeyed the ban and the outcome was different. Suppose the family was slain by the intruder. Instead of DeMar facing up to a year in jail, a $2,500 fine for not having an Illinois Firearms Owners Identification Card and a $750 fine for violating Wilmette's handgun ban, the morning headlines would have read something like, "Family Slain -- Police Have Few Clues."


In November 2001, the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) did a study based on interviews with more than 18,000 state and federal inmates. It found that nearly 80% of those interviewed got their guns from friends or family members, or on the street through illegal purchases. Less than 9% were bought at retail outlets, and just seven-tenths of 1% came from those infamous gun shows.


In October 2003, a task force of scientists appointed by the Centers for Disease Control conducted a sweeping study of the nation's gun-control laws. Included in the review were mandatory waiting periods and bans on certain weapons. All told, 51 published studies about the effectiveness of eight types of gun-control laws were analyzed.


In each case, the task force found "insufficient evidence to determine effectiveness." In other words, the scientists found no proof gun-control reduces violence.


So what is reducing the crime rate? Increased prosecution for the use of guns in criminal acts, for starters. The BJS study noted that about 40% of state inmates and 56% of federal inmates were given additional time because of their firearm use.


Deterrence is another factor. Glen Otero of the Claremont Institute reports that where U.S. counties have enacted conceal-carry laws, murder rates fell by 8%, rape by 5% and aggravated assault by 7%, with the biggest declines in urban counties.


One thing is for sure: No criminal will ever break into Hale DeMar's home again.

 

[windex]

Video of Ceres shooting.Link

He does seem to be firing rapidly, but doesn't look to be full auto or the clip emepty method.

 

[ScorpioVI]

Video of Ceres shooting.Link

I shouldn't be happy about this...

... but the dude was using some pretty good tactics there. "Fix and destroy". In the first vid you can see him engaging and suppressing the threat from the corner, and advancing on his targets. Same with the second vid. Not exactly the greatest use of cover, but hey, the dude wanted to die.

 

[zefflyn]

That's pretty much what I was thinking. He was very antsy, just standing there fiddling with his gun and poncho...

Thought it was weird in the first vid, how there appeared to be 3 bystanders standing at the corner of the building watching him, one guy way out there. When he saw them and started shooting, I realized those were the cops! Why the hell were they just standing there staring at him?

Then he did a good "cut the pie" type advance on the corner.

edit: just watched it a few more times, perhaps they lost sight of him when he walked in front of the store. He saw them, hid, then came out shooting. Can't tell if the cops even fired, but a rifle's still more accurate than a handgun.

 

[VeloceMoto]

So, I really didn't want to continute the stupid, stupid "THE BEAR!!!" thread, but I was wondering...

...anyone want to give guesses on what brought that bear down? Caliber? Bullet type? Barnes-X?

 

[ScorpioVI]

...anyone want to give guesses on what brought that bear down? Caliber? Bullet type? Barnes-X?

From http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bearhunt.asp

The bear pictured above was killed in November 2001 by a hunter (not a Forest Service employee) who came across it while he was deer-hunting in Alaska. As he described the event on the message board at HuntingNet.com:

My partner and I ran into the unexpected . . . "BIG ARSE URSUS"! The bear was shot 10 yards away (no zeros missing in that figure my friends) in the head with a .338 Remington Winnie, using 250 grain Nosler handloads, followed up with two shots to the vitals. A very quick clean death.

We were working up a creek, headed for the mountains to hunt blacktail. He was coming down the creek, hunting for the last of the spawning Coho in the creek. We initially spotted him from 40 yds off. As a matter of fact we were glassing the bear over the high brush just behind the bear when we spotted him.

I dunno what the fuck a damn ".338 Remington Winnie" is. Maybe hunter-talk for "a Winchester-based hunting rifle chambered in .338 Remington Ultra Magnum".

 

[RydTher]

I would guess either the .338 Remington Mag or .338 Win (Winchester) Mag in a Remington Rifle

 

[windex]

I picked up this clip of my g27 a few months ago, and it is much nicer than having to carry a holster for it. Have only seen the Glock models, but they all seem pretty much the same.

Clip Draw

 

[ScorpioVI]

Shotline, Webber...


Head's up. Chapter 67 of Lights Out is... uhh, out... posted, at Frugal Squirrels

It'll probably be a couple of days for the .pdf file to go up.

 

[Eisernkreuz]

public service announcement:

525rds Remington .22LR $9.99 @ Big 5

Box of 50rds CCI-Blazer 9mm $7.99 @ Big 5

Lawnam Speer .45Auto was $15.99, I believe, don't know if it's still on.

 

[Eisernkreuz]

And an update on my .22LR autoloader purchase:

I've decided to wait until spring.. and then I'll probably go with the Remington 597 or Ruger 10/22. For now, I'm gonna spend the money I saved up on 7.62mm ammo, and start a fresh savings for the .22

Sucks that you guys work tomorrow, I'll be hitting the range. Thank you Martin Luther King Jr. for giving me the day off school