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malaysian airline w/ 239 passengers lose contact w/ air traffic control..

Banjoboy said:
If'n it went straight down, it's still bust the wings 'n shit off, 'n summa that'll be float'in.
My theory iz it when straight up into space, and disintegrated in the atmosphere. :p
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:facepalm

i forgot airplanes need wings, don't they...?

so much for my GED degree....
 
Much of the news this morning centered around no news really, other than how inept the Malaysian Government was in not searching properly immediately upon knowing the plane had turned course. So there is that........:thumbdown
 
ALANRIDER7 said:
They should put the "Black Box" in the cloud instead of on the plane.
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agreed albeit they should just redundant it to the cloud.

When I first read this, I though there are no ground towers at 40000ft but then I realized some airlines are offering onboard wifi so it should be a non-issue to transmit anyways.
 
Yakoo752 said:
is the info contained in the black box ever reviewed? or is it only when there is an incident.
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I could imagine how the Pilots Union would not object to a recording confined to a "box" that couldn't be accessed unless there was an incident, but I can also imagine how they would feel about a less secure environment such as "the cloud".
 
You also have some serious issues.

Lots of flights, this almost never happens == lots of expensive satellite transponder capacity burned.

Oh, and polar flights are a non-starter.

It's not really that simple, or it'd be done already.
 
Marlowe said:
It's not really that simple, or it'd be done already.
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The complexity of these sorts of things tend to be bureaucratic rather than technological, in my experience. Which is always sad, when we are capable of doing something to solve a problem, but are not allowed to.

In any event, due to recent events, I am now convinced more than ever that the missing flight is nothing more than an early April Fools prank. :x
 
GiorgioFurioso said:
The complexity of these sorts of things tend to be bureaucratic rather than technological, in my experience. Which is always sad, when we are capable of doing something to solve a problem, but are not allowed to.

In any event, due to recent events, I am now convinced more than ever that the missing flight is nothing more than an early April Fools prank. :x
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Yeah, a bureacracy can just wave their wand and disappear the auroral effects, and create line of sight to satellites parked in orbits much further from the poles.

Oh, wait....
 
I'm curious, what's your credential in this area? You speak like an expert, but there is little that I recall about your history that suggests you are actually involved in aviation technology in any shape or form.

Granted, I've followed a lot of what you you've written in this thread, and you seem somewhat informed. But you're going to need to offer more than a sarcastic backhand if you expect to have any actual credibility as a "thought leader" in this area.
 
GiorgioFurioso said:
I'm curious, what's your credential in this area? You speak like an expert, but there is little that I recall about your history that suggests you are actually involved in aviation technology in any shape or form.

Granted, I've followed a lot of what you you've written in this thread, and you seem somewhat informed. But you're going to need to offer more than a sarcastic backhand if you expect to have any actual credibility as a "thought leader" in this area.
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Just do your research...auroral effects on L band are noticeable enough (and GPS is studied up north for this reason), but it gets much much worse if you're trying to do Ku/Ka that the in-flight satellite WiFi systems are using.

They're all geostationary, BTW...so you need to be able to track said satellite, in flight, while maneuvering, from much, much further north.

Then there's the expense of retrofitting everything for this new system, to solve what? The loss of the occasional box? The purpose of which is just to facilitate investigation after people are dead?

Seems like that money might be better spent elsewhere.
 
GiorgioFurioso said:
I'm curious, what's your credential in this area? You speak like an expert, but there is little that I recall about your history that suggests you are actually involved in aviation technology in any shape or form.

Granted, I've followed a lot of what you you've written in this thread, and you seem somewhat informed. But you're going to need to offer more than a sarcastic backhand if you expect to have any actual credibility as a "thought leader" in this area.
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This Guy knows pretty much ZERO other than what you can find on google. It's funny this isn't the 1st time someone else has called him out for it in this type of thread. Go look back on the sfo crash and his gibberish :laughing. Yet I'm sure he'll come up with some gibberish to this post.
 
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GiorgioFurioso said:
I'm curious, what's your credential in this area? You speak like an expert, but there is little that I recall about your history that suggests you are actually involved in aviation technology in any shape or form.

Granted, I've followed a lot of what you you've written in this thread, and you seem somewhat informed. But you're going to need to offer more than a sarcastic backhand if you expect to have any actual credibility as a "thought leader" in this area.
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He has a diploma in internet searching. A lot of what he says is true, but as someone who works in the industry he says some things that make it obvious he doesn't know near as much as he portrays that he does.


As for making the flight data recorder store information in the cloud, I think that would be a lot of money spent that would accomplish very little. You are talking about a lot of data transmission from a lot of airplanes. In the end, even if we did have the black box data, it would not change what happened to all of those passengers. If you are thinking that somebody highjacked the airplane and having the black box would have let us know where the airplane is now, then that is not the solution. The black box can be disabled fairly easily if you know what you are doing. Assuming the airplane was highjacked, and the assailants knew enough to turn off the transponders, they probably had a lot of other knowledge as well.
 
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