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Never Underestimate How Gay The Surveillance State Is.

Is there a map of where all of the Flock cameras are posted? I live in little ole Sonoma and I can't believe how many we have.
 
Flock works; https://markets.businessinsider.com...-across-county-lines-in-california-1036341399

Just needs tighter accountability by those using it?

Flock LPR Helps Locate Homicide Suspect Across County Lines in California​


PRESS RELEASE GlobeNewswire
Jul. 20, 2026, 08:58 AM

San Juan Bautista, CA, July 20, 2026 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- A 2-year-old boy was killed at a San Juan Bautista residence in the early morning hours of June 7, 2026. The suspect fled before deputies arrived. Flock LPR cameras in Merced County helped law enforcement track and arrest him, and investigators later secured a confession.
At approximately 12:14 a.m. on June 7, 2026, San Benito County Sheriff's Office deputies were dispatched to a residence in San Juan Bautista after a report of an unresponsive infant. A 2-year-old boy was transported to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead. Evidence indicated the child had been strangled. A 34-year-old woman also at the residence reported she had been attacked by the male suspect, who fled in a vehicle before deputies arrived. A second young child was present during the incident.
The Sheriff's Office launched a regional manhunt. With the assistance of Flock cameras deployed in Merced County, law enforcement officers located the suspect's vehicle, gave chase, and arrested him following a physical struggle.
After being returned to San Benito County, the suspect provided a confession to investigators. He was charged with murder, attempted murder, assault on a child causing death, and related felonies. The San Benito County Sheriff's Office credited the multi-agency response and technology-assisted search as central to the swift resolution.
Cases like this reflect how Flock's technology is designed to work: giving investigators real leads quickly while upholding rigorous standards for privacy and responsible use.
 
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When I want to avoid teh surveillance I wear one of my “face” masks

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I've been reading about places ditching Flock. Buuuuuuuuuuuut, they're replacing them with other companies' ALPR cameras.
 
Once again let me ask this:
If Tesla were to sell live data from all of its cars to the government, do you think you would know about it?
Thats 2-3 million cars with 4g modem and 5+ cameras in them.... What do you think all those nVidia / Samsung Chips are doing in there? Streaming Youtube?
 
Dmitriy said:
Once again let me ask this:
If Tesla were to sell live data from all of its cars to the government, do you think you would know about it?
Thats 2-3 million cars with 4g modem and 5+ cameras in them.... What do you think all those nVidia / Samsung Chips are doing in there? Streaming Youtube?
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If?

awareforce.com

These 10 Car Companies Are Collecting an Absurd Volume of Data on You - Aware Force

These 10 car companies are turning your vehicle into a surveillance machine. From tracking your location to selling your personal data, find out who’s spying on you and what information they’re collecting.
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Tesla doesn’t just track your driving — it records it. Internal and external cameras feed images back to Tesla for analysis, training, and storage. In 2023, employees were caught sharing private footage of customers for laughs. Tesla’s privacy policy is vague, opt-outs are nearly impossible, and your data is used to train the company’s AI. You pay Tesla to watch you — and you can’t turn it off.
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byke said:
Private businesses should be able to sell whatever they want, as long as they've buried a disclosure somewhere deep in something you've agreed to. Otherwise, don't buy cars with capabilities that oppose your interests.
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I disagree. We make laws about what can and can't be sold all the time and I think that's proper. We can't buy open wheel roadsters or vehicles without airbags, collapsible steering columns and seatbelts for example. Second problem is, purchasing new cars that have only have capabilities we agree with won't be possible soon. While I agree that older used cars are an option to satisfy the LVL*, that won't be an option for everyone or forever.

League of Vehicular Luddites*
 
byke said:
California might be able to do something given enough time, but there's still the other 49 states. Everything is relative to money, or outrage through people dying. If you can find a way to get a few people killed very directly by data collection, maybe a nice middleclass white family, then you have a good in. The "all the time" part has a significant prefix, because the first airbag was patented in 1952 by an engineer that was motivated after a crash with his family, but it would take 46 years before it became standard equipment. Everything is like that.

If you want to bypass that half-century of misery....because let's face it we're talking about something that's 1/100th as important as dying, you'll need death or some big $$$ backers. The only instant success can come from not buying these vehicles, which also comes with a bonus that if enough people do the same, then you've very likely made long term changes at the same time. It is by far the shortest, cheapest, and most effective path. Yes it's unlikely, but when going against billion/trillion dollar corps, all paths of opposition are extremely unlikely. But, we could also keep affirming with our wallets that we want these features while simultaneously rejecting them with our mouths, it's just going to take even longer to get anything done, if ever.
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I defiantly agree with you about the most efficient way to make change happen. It's 100% though our spending. The problem is, the alternatives aren't totally up to us either because, like you say, we are up against billion dollar multinational companies. If they decide all cars will be surveillance sensors in place we will either have to keep old cars on the road (also a thing multinational corps have a say in - did you want parts for your 15 year old pickup? hahahah?) or fix junk yard rides.

I'm probably never going to buy a new car, so I'm functionally in your camp. I just don't think our camp will be big enough or even sustainable enough to make a difference and that sucks.

Oh yea, we also live in a country that prioritized the automobile over all other forms of public or human powered transportation. Soooo, if you need your paycheck and you need a vehicle to get to work..... njoy your spy car when the jalopy you have is cost prohibitive to fix and there is no other real choice available to you.
 
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