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Porsche Panamera S ?

Enchanter said:
Not in my experience but my dd has a sporty edge to it anyway. Flipping the switch to 'sport' is definitely noticeable, but I wouldn't call it harsh. It also helps when turning but slowing/limiting body roll by stiffening the outside dampers.
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Are they Scotts?



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I like the mag ride, it's pretty much the same as the CTS-V ride quality wise. I leave mine in Perf mode however, slogging on the freeway I slip in it tour, it's a noticeable difference in ride and steering resistance. 2016 have 4 piston front and rear Brembos too. They are pretty neat cars, I'm glad I picked up a 3 pedal. Don't forget to Holden it out, for the extra confusion.







 
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That looks like the Chevy SS you posted,
but what's the badge?


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Just Googled your Holden thingy.

So it's an Australian Rebrand?
 
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72SBC said:
Also another rare gem to snag up is the Chevy SS sedan with the manual. Get it while you can. It is basically the new G8 gxp, and a n/a v2 CTS-V in one.
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Not to mention they look cool as shit.
 
Oh and I guess if you buy a new 911 (2017+) they are all TT now.
 
aszrael1266 said:
I've had a hard on for the 996 TT for a while but with an infant I need 4 doors and a big trunk. I'm not a suv person and the looks of the Pani just don't do it for me.
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And this my friend is the reason why I don't own a 996TT right now.

Sure we have other cars, but I can't buy a car that only serves the need for myself and not to the family. it's just too selfish.
 
TheRobSJ said:
As much as people fawn over "pure drivers cars" that reward those with great skill and severely punish those without (Viper ACR, Camaro Z/28, and others like that). The reality is that most people aren't as skilled as they think. Just can't quite master that heel-toe downshift? Hell with it...just get a DCT. Keep overlooking corners? Not to worry...torque vectoring will save you. Too ham fisted with turn ins? Variable ratio and assist steering is for you.

So cars like the new NSX, the GT-R, or maybe the R8 V10 with every driver aid trick in the book going maybe makes them feel a bit like a video game and less of a pure driving experience. But their maximum performance is a lot more accessible by a layman.
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Newer cars a lot worse. Instead of cutting you off somewhat abruptly as they used to, now the systems are much more advanced and let the driver feel like they're the ones who beautifully corrected the car. Until they get brave, turn it off and realize.....McLaren 650S probably has the most "Wow you gotta be kidding me" system I've been in at the track. More so than 458's and Porsche's.
 
Robert R1 said:
Newer cars a lot worse. Instead of cutting you off somewhat abruptly as they used to, now the systems are much more advanced and let the driver feel like they're the ones who beautifully corrected the car. Until they get brave, turn it off and realize.....McLaren 650S probably has the most "Wow you gotta be kidding me" system I've been in at the track. More so than 458's and Porsche's.
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Oh absolutely. Electronics are getting more and more transparent when they intervene because they are damn near steplessly variable nowadays. And I think because of these advancements is why these systems are showing up on motorcycles now. They couldn't use the abrupt on-off systems of the past. Could you imagine "wheelie control" with one of those old systems? Front wheel comes up, ECU chops all throttle for a second and the front wheel slams back down, then opens it back up and the front end pops up again...talk about Mr Toad's wild ride!
 
72SBC said:
Yeah, I was going to bug you about a CTS-V again but, a friend had this thing come in her dealer and it was their only manual allotted, and I had first dibs on it. :cool
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I just watched a 2011 Black CTS-V wagon (pano, Recaros) go at Mannheim. 4,500 miles. Went for super cheap...clean as could be. Car cover in the back that went with it.

I shoulda pulled the trigger, I just couldn't remember who wanted one.
 
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