Johndicezx9
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Damn, losing Willis will hurt... smith is kinda expected, given his age.
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The Official 2015/2016 NFL Thread
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Eldritch
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Here's some more horrible news regarding the 49ers.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000477349/article/patrick-willis-plans-to-retire-on-tuesday
Plus Justin Smith is retiring...
Holy crap. 3-4 years from now, I want everyone to go back to last years thread to see where I suggest we might be having a Davis/Grudenesque collapse of a very good team based on management in San Jose...
Johndicezx9
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Still gonna hurt....
wazzuFreddo
WuTang is 4 the children
Eldritch
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Bowling4Bikes
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-Iupati to Jersey-B...the mass exodus of solid players out of santa clara continues.
-while the Raiders didn't get Suh, they got a top-tier center to further bolster the o-line. I wanted little Wiz to work out in Oakland, but it doesn't seem to be in the cards. at least McKenzie got an upgrade there.
with so many player re-signing with their teams, the FA pool got shallow really quick. I'm not sure if there's enough talent out there to fully spend the now ~$60M in cap space the Raiders have left. The worst thing they can do is pick up players who don't want to play for them, leaving them cash-strapped in the upcoming years for new top-tier free agents and their own players coming off of their rookie contracts.
maybe it's a good thing if they have lots of cap space left for next year. perhaps if they go 6-10 or even 7-9ish, it'll show pending 2015/16 free agents that this team is on the rise, thus attracting more of them and creating a nice little positive feedback loop. sign more ready-to-dominate players next year, when Carr will be in his 3rd year and (maybe) Amari Cooper in his 2nd year.
-while the Raiders didn't get Suh, they got a top-tier center to further bolster the o-line. I wanted little Wiz to work out in Oakland, but it doesn't seem to be in the cards. at least McKenzie got an upgrade there.
with so many player re-signing with their teams, the FA pool got shallow really quick. I'm not sure if there's enough talent out there to fully spend the now ~$60M in cap space the Raiders have left. The worst thing they can do is pick up players who don't want to play for them, leaving them cash-strapped in the upcoming years for new top-tier free agents and their own players coming off of their rookie contracts.
maybe it's a good thing if they have lots of cap space left for next year. perhaps if they go 6-10 or even 7-9ish, it'll show pending 2015/16 free agents that this team is on the rise, thus attracting more of them and creating a nice little positive feedback loop. sign more ready-to-dominate players next year, when Carr will be in his 3rd year and (maybe) Amari Cooper in his 2nd year.
No. The 49ers won't fail to post a winning season for the next 12 years. The big difference is that Jeddybear is young and able to learn. Al "the Lich" Davis was old, ancient even, and had built the AFC by himself (at least that's the way he saw it). He considered his football decisions infallible even as the game passed him by. That's the major reason the Raiders have experienced 12 years of failure. Now that he's gone the team is showing signs of life again. How much? We'll just have to wait and see.
P.S. I could see a complete implosion for the 49ers this year though. All indicators are pointing toward Tomsula falling flat on his face. If that happens I doubt he'll last an entire season and Baalke would be fired at the end of the season.
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Bowling4Bikes
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and what exactly is he needing to learn? His plan is working perfectly - leverage a very talented team to get a new stadium built, sell PSAs and charge people to go to a highly-edited hall of fame museum, then once the stadium's in place and the superbowl coming to town, pull the rug out from under the fans by getting rid of a popular coach and start playing moneyball. His decisions are not predicated on the success of the team anymore...he's already got what he wanted. now he can sit back, spend little, and watch the fat amounts of money roll in. meanwhile Prince Valium Davis has kept his hands off of football decisions, consulted experts before hiring key positions, is revamping the practice facilities, and has done his best to rid the team of the overall toxic culture Al created. But most importantly, he has green-lighted the team to improve on the football field.
Johndicezx9
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So far he (Jed) seems to be learning from Dan Snyder....
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Eldritch
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If Tomsula falls flat and Baalke is fired, do you think the team will be roaring back into position immediately after that? Usually that kind of shake up takes a few years to bounce back from. I mean, Gore, Willis, J. Smith, Boldin, V. Davis, Boldin, Crabtree, so MANY guys from the winning team will be gone. Bowman, Salary-Kaep and Borland (love that kid) should still be around, but I feel like chasing Harbaugh out may have forced the NIner sinto a premature rebuilding mode. If they had kept harbaugh frsh and competitive, I kind of feel like Willis and Smith might not have retired, especially Patrick Willis, who should have a LOT of gas left in the tank. His retirment to me stinks of not wanting to deal with a bunch of political bullshit and just deciding he had enough money to not bother dealing with it.
ALSO, guess I was wrong about the 'Fins breaking the bank in advance for Suh. I didn't think they would offer that much cash as a team that isn't about to turn the corner. Sorry Raiders, maybe grab Wilfork if you can promise to furnish him an apartment above Everett and Jones as part of the contract?
There isn't much depth to your thought if you think winning isn't important to him. I get it that there are 9er haters. And you're probably in that camp. But are you really deluded enough to have conned yourself into believing Jeddybear doesn't want a winning team?
And...since when did a 3-13 record equate to a team "improv[ing] on the football field."? The shit that you post is just ass backward at times. You're a Raider fan though, right? Par for the course I guess.
That's a bit premature. But you may be right. We'll have to wait and see.
Boldin is leaving twice?
Yeah, it's going to be rough. We'll see. I don't know how or who pulled Harbs into the team 5 years ago. I'm hoping Jeddybear was at least smart enough to have been the green light on it. The team is going to lose some veterans. And that always hurts. But Jeddybear isn't passed it yet. Let's see if he has learned from his mistakes and pulls it back together. It would do everyone well if they remember that the woes the 49ers went through for the majority of the 2000s were due to the salary cap hell they set themselves up for in the late 1990s. The players on the team from 2005 on were solid and there were several standouts. Unfortunately they had a revolving door on the coaching side of things. Now Jeddybear has initiated that coaching churn again. My guess is that he did so at the direction of Baalke. As soon as it goes south Baalke will be out on his ass. And Jeddybear will come to a decision point that will define his legacy as Prez/CEO of the organization. I think he's smart enough that he'll learn from it. He has plenty of resources he can turn to for advice. And those resources know what it took to build the dynasty that lasted two decades. The 9ers gon' be ah'ight.
Johndicezx9
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Willis is leaving because the wacky ass religious evangelist that he follows passed away. The whole offseason Willis' social media pages have been FILLED with religious postings, etc.
Willis retiring after religious awakening
the wiki page of the guy Willis talks about on his facebook page:
Just... crazy.
Willis retiring after religious awakening
the wiki page of the guy Willis talks about on his facebook page:
Just... crazy.
I thought beating the 9ers was definitely a sign of on the field improvement!
Of course you would. Winning is always better than losing. But as far as the sign of sustained improvement? Raider fans like B4B should stop counting their chickens so quickly. I understand how true fans who've gone through the past 12 years of shit are hopeful that this is the year the Raiders will turn it around. It could also just be another year of the same old shit. A 3-13 season the prior year would seem to indicate they haven't turned a corner yet. Regardless of who those 3 victories were against.
Bowling4Bikes
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oh he won alright. he won a brand new stadium and a cash cow. a very savvy business move.
if you think his recent moves shows a commitment to winning on the field, I think you need to look in the mirror to see who's getting conned here.
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Every year in the draft people say shit like "Why did the Niners take Borland when they have Willis and Bowman?" or "Why did they take Tank Carradine and Quinton Dial when they have Justin Smith and Ray McDonald"
Justin Smith has been talked about for the past few seasons, not an if but a when he hangs them up.
Baalke has a pretty good idea what he's doing.
wazzuFreddo
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Raiders defeat Seahawks in Super Bowl 50.
You heard it here first.
You heard it here first.
Bowling4Bikes
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Napoleon Kaufman for the Raiders did the same thing about a dozen years ago...seems crazy to me as well but to each their own.