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the PoliSink Returns

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budman said:
MAGA sympathizer is bad enough.

Just because I tried to stop the pile ups on some folks because they were disrespectful?? All my actions were based on the basic premise don’t be a d!ck and there were a lot of d!cks being waved if anyone provided an alternative opinion to the general population.

Some people think it was defending.

The only thing I was defending was the right to have a conversation.
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I hear you. I'm sorry... for real. : |
 
:rip Emotional day for me. Comedy is my thing... right up there with girls, motorcycles and rock & roll. Spinal Tap is one of my all time favorite movies. I loved Rob Reiner. I'm so glad his father is gone. My heart breaks for Mel Brooks.
 
Kurosaki said:
Then how about we just call it diplomacy?

Most of us are more alike than we are different.
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reminds me of something that gave me a lot of food for thought. one of my philosophy professors was a former trappist monk. if you’re unfamiliar - a very intense order of monks. he had 3 doctorate degrees from vatican university (specifically, lateran university - one of the schools under the vatican umbrella). he left the church over ‘disagreements’, and became a college professor. in one of his lectures, he challenged us to consider the question of ‘keeping an open mind’. sounds appealing, but what does that mean? that you have no personal tenets that you have closed your mind around? that are non-negotiable?

i’m all for civil discourse, but i’ll be damned if i will ever make a pretense of agreeing with something i disagree with by virtue of my silence. IMO, core values have absolutely no discernible meaning if you’re unwilling to demonstrate them with words and deeds. ‘diplomacy’ typically involves compromise. WRT core beliefs, what exactly does it mean to compromise?

and just in case there’s any question, i’m not advocating being a dick. but i also have no sympathy for those who interpret any disagreement with them whatsoever as exactly that.

with regard to that last bit - most often, i feel more different than alike. personally, i’m totally fine with that.
 
It is easy to be diplomatic, er, not to be a dick,
Ahhhh, for some.
Others, not so much
 
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littlebeast said:
reminds me of something that gave me a lot of food for thought. one of my philosophy professors was a former trappist monk. if you’re unfamiliar - a very intense order of monks. he had 3 doctorate degrees from vatican university (specifically, lateran university - one of the schools under the vatican umbrella). he left the church over ‘disagreements’, and became a college professor. in one of his lectures, he challenged us to consider the question of ‘keeping an open mind’. sounds appealing, but what does that mean? that you have no personal tenets that you have closed your mind around? that are non-negotiable?

i’m all for civil discourse, but i’ll be damned if i will ever make a pretense of agreeing with something i disagree with by virtue of my silence. IMO, core values have absolutely no discernible meaning if you’re unwilling to demonstrate them with words and deeds. ‘diplomacy’ typically involves compromise. WRT core beliefs, what exactly does it mean to compromise?

and just in case there’s any question, i’m not advocating being a dick. but i also have no sympathy for those who interpret any disagreement with them whatsoever as exactly that.

with regard to that last bit - most often, i feel more different than alike. personally, i’m totally fine with that.
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Wow, I am in love with this.
 
littlebeast said:
he left the church over ‘disagreements’, and became a college professor. in one of his lectures, he challenged us to consider the question of ‘keeping an open mind’. sounds appealing, but what does that mean? that you have no personal tenets that you have closed your mind around? that are non-negotiable?
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I think most inherently know what the term "keep an open mind" means. If you truly do not, the term means: listen, interpret (does this have value to me) and either dismiss or incorporate. Without movement of thought positions (evolution / compromise), there's no progress to be made; personally or societally, Most important: the likelihood of standing peace is diminished. The statements that imply "my thoughts are unchangeable" mixed with a superiority of such thoughts (and the thought holder) is how we (as a society) end up sharpened and pointed at one another.

I want none of that. Everyone should want none of that. If one's thoughts / positions survive a discussion involving contrarian thoughts / positions, then one should be comforted in their ability to "keep an open mind". Change does not happen within closed minds. We'd all be still riding in parking lots without listening/ trying new moves.
 
Barf is funny how being a dick is when you tell bigots that they're bigots, because being a bigot is just different. You really gotta have an open mind in order have a closed mind. You really just need to listen to bigots more. Fuckin mbarfga..
 
I saw them slice open the duck's throat and bleed it onto a plate. Then it chilled and gelled and sliced into bite sized cubes. Keep an open mind they said...
 
Open mind means give the argument a listen, the argument can then be challenged. The person with the opposing viewpoint, belief or whatever can defend the argument. There are some fundamental wrongs and rights in this world, and some are even written into the Constitution. I see some of that challenged here on barf and it saddens me that we defend trolls. I believe that Polo sink 1 was polluted by some who thought it a fun sport to poke and prod at. others.
 
Regarding the soon to open PolSink NG, discussed historical background, analysis of projected discourse, anecdotal experiences, evaluations and lamentations, my thought wanders between....

"I'm out!" and "Whatever."
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Keep Calm
And
Flame On​
 
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Kurosaki said:
Most of us are more alike than we are different.
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This was a big thing Tom Hartmann (Radio guy) used to talk about a lot, especially when he had Bernie on. I loved it. It's not left vs. right, it's top vs. bottom (Don't go there, you know what I mean!) Good luck everyone. I plan to keep it civil with you all :D
 
Holeshot said:
I think most inherently know what the term "keep an open mind" means. If you truly do not, the term means: listen, interpret (does this have value to me) and either dismiss or incorporate. Without movement of thought positions (evolution / compromise), there's no progress to be made; personally or societally, Most important: the likelihood of standing peace is diminished. The statements that imply "my thoughts are unchangeable" mixed with a superiority of such thoughts (and the thought holder) is how we (as a society) end up sharpened and pointed at one another.

I want none of that. Everyone should want none of that. If one's thoughts / positions survive a discussion involving contrarian thoughts / positions, then one should be comforted in their ability to "keep an open mind". Change does not happen within closed minds. We'd all be still riding in parking lots without listening/ trying new moves.
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Please take this as it is intended, but I don't think this is how your posts are perceived.
 
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