When guns become a fetish.

[Abyss]

You say gun fetish, I say clear and present case of crippling mental illness.

That said, if guns make you randy, I don't see why you can't enjoy them in the comfort of your own home in whichever numbers you please...

 

[Daks]

Guns = Dicks

They advertise larger magazines and assault rifles as masculine and mention "man cards" and strength and power.

Feeds into the average male ego pretty easily.


Every time I see someone argue about their "right" to own something that can kill 200 people in a few minutes I just think "Oh man, sorry about the tiny penis."


Not that this has to do with this news story, but I also don't think a "gun fetish" has anything to do with it.

 

[954Rider]

This guy owned a big cache of guns and his parents (whose home he lived in) didn't realize how many guns he owned.

That article is a classic example of complete left wing bias bullshit. They don't know what the fuck an assault rifle is, to them any rifle is an AR. And 2 combat knives? Jesus I would love to bitch slap whoever wrote that article. 1st Aid kit? They make it sound like as if having a 1st aid kit makes one a murderous freak.

If any Amendment should be regulated I believe it should be the 1st Amendment. It really pisses me off reading such inaccurate and made up articles.

Back to the SOB killer. I'm guessing there was probably some kind of exchange or dirty glance at each other before the shooting. Not saying that makes it ok to shoot somebody, this guy deserves the death penalty IMO, but I just don't think its anything what the media is trying to make it out to be. They want to turn every death by firearm into a sensational reason to ban all guns, knives, and now 1st aid kits and camping gear. I truly believe the media has gone so power hungry that they want to wield the whole power of the 1st Amendment into being responsible for the banishment of the 2nd. I don't even think its political bias anymore, just a power hungry grab for credit for the downfall of others. It really makes me sick.

 

[carries an axe]

Guns = Dicks

They advertise larger magazines and assault rifles as masculine and mention "man cards" and strength and power.

Feeds into the average male ego pretty easily.


Every time I see someone argue about their "right" to own something that can kill 200 people in a few minutes I just think "Oh man, sorry about the tiny penis."


Not that this has to do with this news story, but I also don't think a "gun fetish" has anything to do with it.

I disagree completely guns like bikes are fun. Depending on your mood you might enjoy a different bike or gun. You shouldn't have to justify it, and it is a right (for now) Plenty of women enjoy them as well. I have an antique revolver because its pretty. if I could fire them I might have all sorts of shit. My dick is quite nice.

 

[morthrane]

I found this part more disturbing than anything:

District Attorney George Gascón also said that just before shooting San Francisco State student Justin Valdez, 20, on Monday night near Valdez's home, the suspect brandished his gun brazenly on the light-rail car, with little effect.

"On the surveillance video we have, everyone is looking at their cell phones and personal devices, and nobody notices," said Gascón. He said he found that "concerning."

A nation full of digital zombies...

But, it's clear that for some, guns become a fetish, and when they reach this point it becomes potentially dangerous for others.

A gun fetish can take on different outcomes, but in this case it seems to be that he aquired all those guns, then wanted to use them. After all, what's the point of owning all those guns (in his case) if you can't shoot something (or in his case, somebody).

The people who scare me the most are the ones who fixate on guns, and often the most visible of these are the Open Carry activists.

The people whom I am the least comfortable with owning guns are the ones most passionate and outspoken about gun ownership rights. Ironically, these are the people that give the other side the most ammunition to ban gun ownership.

Thoughts?

Fetish: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Also, you're wrong about providing ammunition to the anti-gunners: they need dead children and mentally ill crazies for soap boxes.

Guns = Dicks

They advertise larger magazines and assault rifles as masculine and mention "man cards" and strength and power.

Feeds into the average male ego pretty easily.


Every time I see someone argue about their "right" to own something that can kill 200 people in a few minutes I just think "Oh man, sorry about the tiny penis."

If anything, sounds like you've bought into some hollywood marketroid bullshit.

200 in a few minutes Hyperbole to the rescue!

Every time I see someone argue about their Right to bear arms, I think "Good." Here's why: I believe in actual equality amongst all humans. If I was evil and incapable of empathy, I'd be all for banning guns. No sense in letting the weaker and slower victims have a chance to fight back!

 

[Alan_Hepburn]

Every time I see someone argue about their "right" to own something that can kill 200 people in a few minutes I just think "Oh man, sorry about the tiny penis."

Every time I see someone argue about their "right" to own something that can exceed the legal speed limits I just think "Oh man, sorry about the tiny penis."

Absolutely NO difference...

If any Amendment should be regulated I believe it should be the 1st Amendment. It really pisses me off reading such inaccurate and made up articles.

...and there's a move afoot among certain legislators to restrict our First Amendment freedom of speech to Government-approved "journalists" only, but I'm sure that's not the regulation you're thinking about!

 

[CABilly]

It sounds more like he had a murder fetish and just used the guns to that end.

 

[Nemo Brinker]

I disagree completely guns like bikes are fun. Depending on your mood you might enjoy a different bike or gun. You shouldn't have to justify it, and it is a right (for now) Plenty of women enjoy them as well. I have an antique revolver because its pretty. if I could fire them I might have all sorts of shit. My dick is quite nice.

Adam, I wish we could go to the range...think you could if the gun were set up for you in a carrier, like a Lead Sled or something similar?

Actually, Daks, do you want to go? As a woman I'm quite dickless (unless you count my toybag), but enjoy shooting, have a few guns. So does my girlfriend--we were both raised on farms, where guns were just part of everyday life. It might help demystify guns for you.

I don't doubt that guns function as a masculine signifier for some folks, but is that a reason to ban anything we have clear rights to? Careful of mixing up your aesthetics with your politics...

 

[CABilly]

Guns = Dicks

They advertise larger magazines and assault rifles as masculine and mention "man cards" and strength and power.

Feeds into the average male ego pretty easily.


Every time I see someone argue about their "right" to own something that can kill 200 people in a few minutes I just think "Oh man, sorry about the tiny penis."


Not that this has to do with this news story, but I also don't think a "gun fetish" has anything to do with it.

What does my affinity for little derringers say about me?

 

[carries an axe]

Adam, I wish we could go to the range...think you could if the gun were set up for you in a carrier, like a Lead Sled or something similar?

Actually, Daks, do you want to go? As a woman I'm quite dickless (unless you count my toybag), but enjoy shooting, have a few guns. So does my girlfriend--we were both raised on farms, where guns were just part of everyday life. It might help demystify guns for you.

I don't doubt that guns function as a masculine signifier for some folks, but is that a reason to ban anything we have clear rights to? Careful of mixing up your aesthetics with your politics...

I would love to, there ways to do just about anythingartyhttp://www.adaptiveoutdoorsman.com/lmpm.html
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[Abyss]

Guns = Dicks

They advertise larger magazines and assault rifles as masculine and mention "man cards" and strength and power.

Feeds into the average male ego pretty easily.


Every time I see someone argue about their "right" to own something that can kill 200 people in a few minutes I just think "Oh man, sorry about the tiny penis."


Not that this has to do with this news story, but I also don't think a "gun fetish" has anything to do with it.

Your posts are usually extremely entertaining.

 

[westie]

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[OaklandF4i]

Adam, I wish we could go to the range...think you could if the gun were set up for you in a carrier, like a Lead Sled or something similar?

Actually, Daks, do you want to go? As a woman I'm quite dickless (unless you count my toybag), but enjoy shooting, have a few guns. So does my girlfriend--we were both raised on farms, where guns were just part of everyday life. It might help demystify guns for you.

I don't doubt that guns function as a masculine signifier for some folks, but is that a reason to ban anything we have clear rights to? Careful of mixing up your aesthetics with your politics...

While I cant claim to be dickless... your point was definately made! Had a long conversation about this very subject in a long truck ride back from cow mtn last weekend with another Barfer. I grew up with guns used as tools first and foremost. Lots of guns for differnet hunting purposes. Hunting supplented our diets. Hell, I have eaten and enjoyed squirrel more than once. I still own guns.

But there seems to be a huge chasm in the perception and or reality of BOTH the far left and far right when it comes to guns. The politicians arent making us any safer with their bans, and the far right isnt making sense fighting against reasonable gun background checks. I have zero issue with waiting a few weeks for a background check and finger prints thru a licenced dealer, private party sale, or even family member transfer. Christ... I've been fingerprinted so many times for jobs.. and even a CA drivers licence... the arguement against this doesnt hold water. That said, the system must work better. Banning guns or furthing limiting magazine capacity isnt the answer either. That is argued by politicians for air time.....

Dunno? I think I just babbled and added absolutely nothing to the thread. Maybe I should run for office...

 

[Dubbington]

P.S. I think most of my legal gun owner friends would qualify as possessing massive arsenals, according SFPD/Chronicle standards.

Exactly. Just another case of the PoPo and Media making a mountain out of mole hill. They don't realize the gun ownership is a hobby and sport and many buy because they know years down the road specific models wont be around. In a way it's investing, not stockpiling for the apocalypse.

So, you're conflating what you call a "gun fetishist" with open carry advocates. Got it.

The Open Car advocates were trying to push the Concealed Carry issue to the forefront, they just went about it slightly the wrong way.

I can't subscribe to the theory that owning more guns makes you nuts. For me, getting into firearms has made me more aware of my rights, not just the 2nd amendment, and how they are slowly getting trampled on violated.

 

[NorCalAthlete]

My biggest issue with background checks and waiting periods is more of the mentality behind it. You're no longer innocent until proven guilty, you're guilty until proven innocent. Dangerous mentality, that...

Making me wait 10 days for a "cooling off" period does absolutely nothing when I already own one or more guns. The problem is, you can't necessarily verify whether or not it's someone's first, second, fourth, or tenth purchase without a registry of sorts. Since we don't want that either, we lethargically accept the lesser of two evils pushed upon us.

 

[NorCalAthlete]

Oh and Daks - I agree with Abyss, your posts are entertaining as always. Woefully misguided and needlessly antagonistic, but entertaining nonetheless.

 

[Climber]

How many gun rights activists commit crimes like these? I think your point of view is unfounded. These crimes are normally committed by people who are mentally ill, and not people that you see at gun rallies, or protests.

First of all, define what you mean by fetish. Then why does what you consider a fetish make a person more likely to commit a crime?

I didn't say it makes them commit a crime, but the people whom I consider having a 'gun fetish' do have an unnatural fixation on owning guns which can lead to various behavioral patterns, some of which potentially can be dangerous.

fet·ish also fet·ich (ftsh, ftsh)
n.
1. An object that is believed to have magical or spiritual powers, especially such an object associated with animistic or shamanistic religious practices.
2. An object of unreasonably excessive attention or reverence.
3. Something, such as a material object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification.
4. An abnormally obsessive preoccupation or attachment; a fixation.

Perhaps some of you don't believe that they type of fixation doesn't exist among some gun owners. I do believe that it does exist with some owners.

I am NOT saying that just because you own more than a couple guns, that you have a fetish, as some are trying to argue in this thread.

Certainly, in the KS, there are some who will jump all over anybody who voice an opinion that has even a whiff of possibly criticizing gun ownership, I would ask those to consider this with a more open mind.

 

[Ant]

I didn't say it makes them commit a crime, but the people whom I consider having a 'gun fetish' do have an unnatural fixation on owning guns which can lead to various behavioral patterns, some of which potentially can be dangerous.


Perhaps some of you don't believe that they type of fixation doesn't exist among some gun owners. I do believe that it does exist with some owners.

I am NOT saying that just because you own more than a couple guns, that you have a fetish, as some are trying to argue in this thread.

Certainly, in the KS, there are some who will jump all over anybody who voice an opinion that has even a whiff of possibly criticizing gun ownership, I would ask those to consider this with a more open mind.

I agree with this:

Not everyone who owns a lot of firearms makes their hobby unnatural or dangerous. Ever hear of a stamp collector with 1 stamp?

There are people who own 1 gun who are dangerous and their thoughts lead them to do bad things to people.

 

[NorCalAthlete]

I didn't say it makes them commit a crime, but the people whom I consider having a 'gun fetish' do have an unnatural fixation on owning guns which can lead to various behavioral patterns, some of which potentially can be dangerous.


Perhaps some of you don't believe that they type of fixation doesn't exist among some gun owners. I do believe that it does exist with some owners.

I am NOT saying that just because you own more than a couple guns, that you have a fetish, as some are trying to argue in this thread.

Certainly, in the KS, there are some who will jump all over anybody who voice an opinion that has even a whiff of possibly criticizing gun ownership, I would ask those to consider this with a more open mind.

By your definition, pretty much all anti-gunners and the media have gun fetishes. So....sure, gun ownership doesn't equal fetish, I agree with you there.

 

[Abyss]

Oh and Daks - I agree with Abyss, your posts are entertaining as always. Woefully misguided and needlessly antagonistic, but entertaining nonetheless.

Precisely why they're entertaining, like watching videos on YouTube made by churches arguing that pop musicians are satanists.