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ZX14 or Hayabusa?

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If you're serious and not wasting people's time, consider listening to the voice of experience. There are certain realities to look at here. If this was a mountain climbing forum, nobody in their right mind would try Mount Everest their first time out. If you have any riding experience at all, you know that you can get into trouble faster than you can say "Oh SHIT!" If you have no experience, you can't know what you don't know about these cutting edge machines. Neither bike is beginner friendly. If you care about staying alive, consider starting off on something that you can learn on without crashing in the first 30 seconds.
 
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ALANRIDER7 said:
If you're serious and not wasting people's time, consider listening to the voice of experience. If this was a mountain climbing forum, nobody in their right mind would try Mount Everest their first time out. If you have any riding experience at all, you know that you can get into trouble faster than you can say "Oh SHIT!" If you have no experience, you can't know what you don't know about these cutting edge machines. Neither bike is beginner friendly. If you care about staying alive, consider starting off on something that you can learn on without crashing in the first 30 seconds.
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I was expecting some hideously gory pic of some new rider splattered across his hayabusa. You let me down, alan, you let me down. :mad
 
why are you so dead set on those 2? really? and dont say its because your a big guy, come clean. i have seen plenty of bigger guys on 600's, 750's, even 500's. if its because someone said you should get it, then just say so....

if you are going to try to use a power argument, then maybe you should do some number checking. lets look at the hayabusa. the power (i dont stand by these numbers, just a quick search showed them) is 172 hp, and the weight is 546 lbs wet. a dodge ram truck has 215 hp, and weighs in at 6700 lbs. the dodge ram weighs 12 times more then the hayabusa. im pretty sure the dodge ram has more then enough power to pull you around.

why not look into some of the bmw's? those are larger bikes, same with the buell, or ktm adventure's... or suzuki vstrom, or yamaha's FZ's? there are plenty of other options if you look around that would be better suited.
 
Msteinberg you have no idea what your getting into, buying a 200 mph crotch rocket is nothing like buying a sports car, mastering a sportbike is not easy the only thing that comes close is a jet fighter, just ask a fighter pilot who rides, if you don't want to listen to the guys here who are really trying to save your life, please hold off and get more info and talk to people you trust, you are being suduced snap out of it.
 
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If you are getting one of the two, maintenace wise the Busa is easier to work on. Other than that, get one you fill the most comfortable on.
 
msteinberg said:
...I am leaning towards the Hayabusa because it looks better but in terms of maintenance, dependability and performance, they're pretty evenly matched, right?

Michael
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They are both excellent bikes and pretty evenly matched. Easy to buy too, both Suzuki and Kawasaki offer revolving-credit type loans so you're not forced to spend a ton of money on comprehensive insurance. (the insurance industry is a huge scam)

Really it just comes down to which one you like.
 
Get either bike but put a governor on the throttle. IIRC that is how they do it where they have tiered licensing like in Britain. You must be able to import the system to the states. This way the man can look badass on his Busa but only have access to the Busa's right nut.

This thread is just like a thousand other threads. The man wants to ride but doesn't want to peddle his sister's Ninja 250 to earn his bones. He is in to riding for the image and the DS image isn't what he's looking for. He wants a big dog for his big ass.

I'm surprised the motorcycle marketplace hasn't filled this need yet. Why don't we see governing power commanders for these bikes in the states? It seems like a slam dunk for some business. The rider gets his bling. The insurance company gets their money. The dealer gets his new bike sale. And last the aftermarket provider gets money a sale of the device. The only question in my book is the litigious end of the argument.
 
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I am only looking for opinions on the two bikes. I am an adult and take responsibility for my actions. That said, I would appreciate it if further responses would refrain from lectures on my safety.

Michael
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Take into consideration that everyone, even when they are being assholes in thier posts (like I often do), or doing so for a lot of reasons. Some of them may be:
1. They don't want to see you get hurt.
2. They don't want thier insurance to go up as a result of you and the other 5000 people who won't listen to experience and choose a bike that they can't handle with the engine off, let alone turned on.
3. They are tired of reading about people dying on bikes for stupid reasons.

If you are as responsible as you claim, you would listen to what these people are saying. A responsible person will listen to experience, reason the suggestions, then make a decision based on the advice given. You have been given four pages of "Poor choice, how about you do this..." and you are blatantly ignoring them, very irresponsible.

I wish I was smart enough to ask before hand and then smart enough to listen, I was neither. I ended up on a bike way to big for me (with half the horsepower of the bikes you are looking at) and paid the price for being stupid. Don't be like me.

There are a lot of options out there, even for large riders. They also don't have to be the latest bikes like the two you choose, they could also be older models like what I have for example. Dual sports and SuperMoto's are being worth looking into as they are very fun and better for larger riders, especially when first starting out. I loved having a dual sport (which was my third bike) and look forward to owning a Supermoto soon as I get the money.

I have raced with a guy who is about 6' 6" and 230 pounds, and he races on a 125GP bike. You think a 600 or 1000 feels small? Try a GP bike, that is small. If he can manage to ride, and ride fast on a 125 chassis, then you can certainly manage something smaller then a 1300cc bike.

Or just let the ego be the better of you, do what you want, and hope things work out well.

Regardless of what you say, you are not going to find too many people here who are not going to post the answer you are looking for. Most of us have "been there, done that, have the metal inserts to prove it".
 
msteinberg said:
I am only looking for opinions on the two bikes. I am an adult and take responsibility for my actions. That said, I would appreciate it if further responses would refrain from lectures on my safety.

Michael
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You are not ready for either bike.

If you know better, then make your choice and go away.

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Easy to buy too, both Suzuki and Kawasaki offer revolving-credit type loans so you're not forced to spend a ton of money on comprehensive insurance. (the insurance industry is a huge scam)
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msteinberg said:
I am only looking for opinions on the two bikes. I am an adult and take responsibility for my actions. That said, I would appreciate it if further responses would refrain from lectures on my safety.

Michael
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Buy what you want to buy, it's your life. Some people will lecture you on what you need to do and there are other people on this board that have genuine advice that you should hear. The problem is sorting the two out.
 
Get either one. Then put a 10" subwoofer in the passenger seat so you can roll hard downtown or at the local squid bucks and pickup some fly honeys.
 
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Get either one. Then put a 10" subwoofer in the passenger seat so you can roll hard downtown or at the local squid bucks and pickup some fly honeys.
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that's how it's done? sweet... anyone wanna buy a 675? i wanna get some "fly honeys"! :laughing:laughing
 
After doing more research, I've decided to opt for the 2008 Hayabusa for its technology improvements. Thanks to all who have provided genuine criticism.

Michael
 
think of a kid who just got his driving permit. he wants a first car. he get a pagani zonda s.

sound retarded? now multiply that by ten and thats about how you sond to someone who knows a bit about bikes.

i know that thoes arent the only two bike that will fit you. I KNOW!!!!!

strike the hayabusa and the zx14 off your bike list and if the bike has more than 700cc dont add it to your list. i really wouldnt reccomend anyhting over 400cc for a starting bike. me and my girlfriend rode on ym 250 ninja and it held up just fine, combined weight was ~350lbs. it held and exceeded freeway speed no problem.
 
After doing more research, I've decided to opt for the 2008 Hayabusa for its technology improvements. Thanks to all who have provided genuine criticism.

Michael
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R.I.P.


we really want you alive, dont buy a 2008 coffin
 
Please come back to this thread after you have received an insurance quote. Nobody here has swayed your decision. Maybe $400 a month for insurance will. That is if you can get it.
 
plumber said:
Please come back to this thread after you have received an insurance quote. Nobody here has swayed your decision. Maybe $400 a month for insurance will. That is if you can get it.
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I have an excellent driving record, am 32 years old and am financially solvent. I do not have a problem affording sufficient insurance.

Michael
 
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