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Close one on Pinehurst - another effing M4M thread/rant

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My opinion (which I know doesn't mean a flip damn to anyone besides myself) is that the OP should have already filed a complaint with the police. Give them the videos and DivZ's information. Press charges if you can. That will inform his parents, and you can talk to them all you want. Their son will learn the consequences of his actions and they will learn "who their son is."
 
My opinion (which I know doesn't mean a flip damn to anyone besides myself) is that the OP should have already filed a complaint with the police. Give them the videos and DivZ's information. Press charges if you can. That will inform his parents, and you can talk to them all you want. Their son will learn the consequences of his actions and they will learn "who their son is."

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why not give the son the benefit of the doubt and not jump to the legalities.. We should as decent adults try and attempt to resolve most issues without involving police..
 
why not give the son the benefit of the doubt and not jump to the legalities.. We should as decent adults try and attempt to resolve most issues without involving police..

Kurt already tried and the kid bailed. Next?
 
No reason to take it out on his car. I mean after all, the car didn't do it on it's own.

I sort of feel bad for DC*Sk8r, ok not really, but a bit. I had a feeling with some of the tempers I have seen in riders, and god fucking forbid DivinShithead hit a HA rider. He'd be a bag of hamburger right about now.... DC could end up with the same fate just by being around Divine..

Sorta feel bad... ok not really.
and I give a fuck if they do something? they would just look like fucken idiots becuase A) im not divine Z B) no fucken shit i will hang out with divine there my friends
 
and I give a fuck if they do something? they would just look like fucken idiots becuase A) im not divine Z B) no fucken shit i will hang out with divine there my friends

dude, you're hardcore man. can i be like you all macho and shit?
 
If the goal was to embarass and call out the douchieness of the Z driver then this thread succeeded!

The downside is an great opportunity was lost soon as gixxergirl started with the flirting and leghumping at the Z forum and the onslaught of name calling began here. Don't get me wrong, I had more than one chuckle in this thread and many great barf moments were created but I feel that a chance to educate got lost in the fun. I fear that even more cars are going to hate us now.

Flame away.

:wtf the message got out, the thread had no more forward momentum, people had stopped posting about the situation.
With the "new" interest in the thread, at least it's keeping it at the top of the page, where more people are continuing to see the information that's in it. And, for the sake of accuracy, I didn't start the leghumping, I just responded to it. Nothing wrong with encouraging "interspecies" (car/bike) relations! :p

i get what your trying to say i guess what im saying i his actions where wrong. sure i could try to talk to him but it really doesnt matter what anyone says when your alone your gonna do what you want? like to me its kinda like the saying "you can take a horse to the water but you cant make him drink". i can talk to him all i want who knows if he will take it in..i gotta see if his actions will speak for him in a more positive manor..

As someone who'd owned horses for decades, you never know how thirsty the horse is until you get him to the water. You have NOTHING to lose by talking to your friend... chrissakes, at least make the EFFORT- if you truly care about your friend. And yeah- most people really DO care what their friends think!
 
and I give a fuck if they do something? they would just look like fucken idiots becuase A) im not divine Z B) no fucken shit i will hang out with divine there my friends

If I were divz, I'd be asking you to quit "helping" me so much. The OP still has the option of going to the cops with this. Anything you can do to try to facilitate a conversation between him and divz helps your friend. Puffing your chest out and acting tough just drives the wedge deeper.

I know you see a lot of people coming down on your buddy, but don't forget who fucked up. This is what happens when a person does something that affects other folks. Now isn't the time for "a good offense."
 
Pinehurst is my favorite nearby road for playing. Lots to do. Good fun. :thumbup

It's a familiar story, it seems. Out for an little romp after work. Cruised up Wildcat, then up to Grizzly Peak and past the wall. Continued on Skyline, then down towards Canyon to ride Pinehurst towards Redwood. It was a beautiful evening, climbing up the hill out of the canyon towards where it gets fairly tight.

I ride goat trails a lot, and while Pinehurst is tight in places, it's no goat trail. It's got a centerline, and for the most part the pavement is passable. Still, it has a fair number of blind right handers, and one lesson I've learned from the goat trails is to assume that there can be something ugly coming around them. My habit is to set up to the right, and to hug the right all the way through the turn, even though it does not provide the best line of sight.

Climbing up the hill at a spirited pace, I flicked it into one of these blind rights. At about 1/3rd of the way through a red Miata with the top down and a young guy behind the wheel appears coming the other way with both of his inside wheels on my side of the yellow line.

First thought, "Shit! :wow"

Second thought, "Good thing I'm way over to the right."

About the time that second thought was forming, what should appear but a silver 350Z trying to pass the Miata on the inside! Oh fuck yes, this shithead is trying to go inside of a car that is already in my lane in a turn that was a blind left for both of them. :mad

Aim for the gap - maybe a foot wide path of pavement - and roll on the throttle. Reflex. No contact.

To be clear, had I been cleanly in the center of my lane, it would have been a head-on collision. Had I late apexed by running out close to the yellow line before turning in to improve my view of the turn, it would likely have been a head-on collision. Had I been upright rather than leaned over, my bars would have contacted the car. It was close.

I've been riding motos more than 40 years, and I've had an M1 for nearly 33 years. Close calls are uncommon for me. I haven't had a true close call since a cager hit me in the maze a couple of years ago. This was fucking close.

What's next was stupid. I chased him and caught him in traffic. I tried to get him to pull over, but he appeared to ignore me, but then again, he was talking on the phone when I came up behind him. What would I have done if he'd pulled over? Probably gotten my butt kicked. Not smart. Neither was he. The dope was clearly running laps on Pinehurst. When I decided it was fruitless to mess with him, I headed into Moraga where I found a LEO doing speed enforcement, and notified him of my experience. To my pleasant surprise, after giving him the details, the LEO headed out to look for the cager. I doubt if he found him, but I sure appreciate the effort. :thumbup

If you've read this far, what do you get out of this?

  1. Beware of a silver 350Z with the California plate "DIVINE Z". He nearly killed me. Don't let him kill you.
  2. On blind rights, expect the worst, including some stupid bubba in your lane. Choose your line and speed accordingly.

There, had to get that off my chest. /rant breathe yeah, yeah, yeah M4fuckingM. :twofinger

Ride safe. :ride

wow..... glad your ok.. ill be watching out for those cars... and if i do find him i will exchange words for all of us... or the usual steel ball bearings i carry on me will find there way to his bumper hood and windshield...:twofinger
 
My opinion (which I know doesn't mean a flip damn to anyone besides myself) is that the OP should have already filed a complaint with the police. Give them the videos and DivZ's information. Press charges if you can. That will inform his parents, and you can talk to them all you want. Their son will learn the consequences of his actions and they will learn "who their son is."

But as someone pointed out way upthread, the po-po probably won't be interested unless there was physical contact between the vehicles.

Besides... OAKLAMD.
 
But as someone pointed out way upthread, the po-po probably won't be interested unless there was physical contact between the vehicles.

Besides... OAKLAMD.

hmm.... hey Kurt, didn't his mirror graze your shoulder? :laughing
 
So noted....so monitored, nothing like bored UC Cops on Grizzly Peak now :).

brash
 
Dc tell your friend(s) to contact Kurt (A husband to a wonderful woman, A father to 3 sons, and a valued member of Barf) and have a man to man at 1rider as Connie/Robert already said?

Dc and co. just understand the passion/anger that we all feel about the situation comes from that it could have been any of us (and I'll be the first to tell you, I'm not as good a ride as Kurt, I'd be dead). Seeing a car on the wrong side of traffic (esp. in a blind corner) is literal like staring at a barrel of a gun for us.
 
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Dc tell your friend(s) to contact Kurt (A husband to a wonderful woman, A father to 3 sons, and a valued member of Barf) and have a man to man at 1rider as Connie/Robert already said?

Dc and co. just understand the passion/anger that we all feel about the situation comes from that it could have been any of us (and I'll be the first to tell you, I'm not as good a ride as Kurt, I'd be dead). Seeing a car on the wrong side of traffic (esp. in a blind corner) is literal like staring at a barrel of a gun for us.

Well said. I hope to see them up Mines on Sunday! :)
 
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