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NFL 2021

scootergmc said:
C'mon now, it was only :37 needed by the Packers. And there's maybe one QB in the league who could've made that first pass to Davante Adams, and that was Rodgers. The ball literally cleared Fred Warner's hands by a football width. The 49ers played that prevent zone and covered the sidelines so there were holes to be had in the middle of the field. Rodgers knew what he had an exploited it. The 49ers would've won that game against any other team.
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How do you not double Adams when he was his main target all night. He had a backup CB on him and no help. That last play where he was wide open in the middle of the field was just :green
 
Sharxfan said:
How do you not double Adams when he was his main target all night. He had a backup CB on him and no help. That last play where he was wide open in the middle of the field was just :green
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The defensive play call wasn't bad, the 49ers just got beat by the best QB in the league.
 
scootergmc said:
The defensive play call wasn't bad, the 49ers just got beat by the best QB in the league.
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Play calling was terrible.

Packers had no timeouts. Rogers is an accurate and timing oriented QB. Niners choked and needed to blitz and pressure. They didn't and the secondary got exposed.

They get a sack and game is over.
 
Dubbington said:
Play calling was terrible.

Packers had no timeouts. Rogers is an accurate and timing oriented QB. Niners choked and needed to blitz and pressure. They didn't and the secondary got exposed.

They get a sack and game is over.
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You can "what if" everything but watching it again Monday morning they just plain got beat.
 
scootergmc said:
C'mon now, it was only :37 needed by the Packers. And there's maybe one QB in the league who could've made that first pass to Davante Adams, and that was Rodgers. The ball literally cleared Fred Warner's hands by a football width. The 49ers played that prevent zone and covered the sidelines so there were holes to be had in the middle of the field. Rodgers knew what he had an exploited it. The 49ers would've won that game against any other team.
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Until I turned on the radio this morning, I was cool with the game because I know a master QB picked apart a devastated secondary. The Niners are basically about a 10 and 6 team but not without filling those vacancies. They made a very strong comeback in that game but failed in the very end because they don't have two starting cornerbacks.

I can see what's wrong with the Niners: they're devastated of secondary players and running backs. Shanahan's plodding win-by-attrition scheme requires better RB gains that he got yesterday. Literally, two or three yards per carry more would have changed that game but they were getting stuffed.

And this cuts to the core of my belief about the team: Shanahan doesn't have a high-scoring, big-play mentality. He has an ultimate balance scheme that wins in a mostly unexciting way unless he gets very lucky with his chosen players. He is the master of the 17-24 ranging final score game. He can't get in a home run derby, he has to have a strong defense. He doesnt need Mahomes to run his scheme though of course it would be great.

He is also very cautious and I think it hurt him a bit yesterday.

I understand why he didn't play Lance more, because they were BEHIND for most of the game. He ain't Riverboat Ron whatsoever. I think Shanahan has a very buttoned-up tight concept of conditions which sacrifices spontaneous gains for a reliable, clock-eating march down the field. I think he'd love to have a better long-ball from Garoppalo but he is too calculating and experienced to just assume Lance is going to go out there and tear it up. More likely, he probably thinks he'll get an uneven performance. Clowns on the radio expect him to throw Lance to the Seahawks next week. If he didn't give him much first play in the first two games, why would he do that against Seattle? Mind you, I am not sure how good Seattle is right now at defense (haven't seen em play this year).

Jimmy G played better than I expected making huge third down plays that I was positive would fail as they approached the Red Zone. The radio guys are super down on on Jimmy but what I saw was a burned secondary, low yield RB play (we are spoiled on Mostert). Outstanding play by Deebo, Kittle was Kittle and Aiyuk was moderately successful, making a spectacular catch but missing a few others. Sure, I wish Jimmy was better but I don't pin that loss on him and frankly Aaron Rodgers is just a master of his craft right now. He has been lucky enough, like Brady, and Wilson, to make it through all of these games and still have a functioning body to execute what he can see with his eyes and brain.

They were even complaining about the D line yesterday for not enough pressure. I don't think most QBs could have stayed as cool as Rodgers so I think they provide adequate pressure to win most games henceforth. I love the Niners D. They have continued through the last years being on their own page of expectation even while the offense faltered. They are really proud, hard-hitters. Whether DeMeco has their respect as much as Saleh, I dunno, but I like our guys. I think Bosa is just getting warmed up frankly and I expect some star play from him as the season progresses.
 
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scootergmc said:
You can "what if" everything but watching it again Monday morning they just plain got beat.
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Wait, Niners got beat? Really?

Clearly there are numerous wait to get beat, win, and lose a game. Niners lost the game, I don't feel they got beat per se.

Also, HOW they got beat is what I'm concerned about not simply the fact they did. Some ways can be corrected, other ways are indicative of a larger problem.

The fact Rams and Cards are undefeated, despite only 3 games in, could be a concern. It mean Niners need to shoot for wild card unless they string some wins together and Cards and Rams start losing.

From the looks of things, Niners don't have the secondary to stop good QBs and the running game to keep the clock ticking. Both were evident in yesterdays loss.

Shanny needs to pass more and have Kittle block less. Kittle can't be the deep receiver threat either BUT he's likely the only one Shanny trusts which is a problem.
 
Dubbington said:
Wait, Niners got beat? Really?

Clearly there are numerous wait to get beat, win, and lose a game. Niners lost the game, I don't feel they got beat per se.

Also, HOW they got beat is what I'm concerned about not simply the fact they did. Some ways can be corrected, other ways are indicative of a larger problem.

The fact Rams and Cards are undefeated, despite only 3 games in, could be a concern. It mean Niners need to shoot for wild card unless they string some wins together and Cards and Rams start losing.

From the looks of things, Niners don't have the secondary to stop good QBs and the running game to keep the clock ticking. Both were evident in yesterdays loss.

Shanny needs to pass more and have Kittle block less. Kittle can't be the deep receiver threat either BUT he's likely the only one Shanny trusts which is a problem.
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Are you trying to play a semantic game? All you need to do to see who got beat and who didn't is check the final scores on games. :dunno
 
Eldritch said:
Are you trying to play a semantic game? All you need to do to see who got beat and who didn't is check the final scores on games. :dunno
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yeah, I'm confused too. I mean, I really felt like they almost pulled it off, and had a great comeback, but.....To me, at least, it was a tolerable loss for all the good things that did happen, despite injuries. But definitely an L.

By and large, good games yesterday. I was switching back and forth from Rams-Bucs to Raiders-fins but enjoyed what I saw.

That stadium in LA, wow.

I dont know how a world-class area like our BA ended up with Levi's stadium but god what an embarassment it is.
 
Bay Arean said:
yeah, I'm confused too. I mean, I really felt like they almost pulled it off, and had a great comeback, but.....To me, at least, it was a tolerable loss for all the good things that did happen, despite injuries. But definitely an L.

By and large, good games yesterday. I was switching back and forth from Rams-Bucs to Raiders-fins but enjoyed what I saw.

That stadium in LA, wow.

I dont know how a world-class area like our BA ended up with Levi's stadium but god what an embarassment it is.
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There is no Football in the Bay Area any longer. That shit is in Silicon Valley. ;)
 
and there's no football in New York unless you mean Buffalo.
 
mikev said:
and there's no football in New York unless you mean Buffalo.
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:laughing Are you suggesting that East Rutherford is part of the Newark greater metropolitan area?

Have you ever even been to the City? Know the people at all? Give me a fucking break. You can see downtown from the fucking swamp the ballpark was built in. It is literally 5 miles from downtown.

:dunno


Silicon Valley people are fucking NOT part of San Francisco Culture. Anyone who is actually from here knows that shit. :dunno

Are you just pretending to be local, or something?
 
^ The New York Giants still play in Jersey Bro.


And really no one cares except that you like to point out that the S.F. Niners play in Santa Clara every chance you get. Sooooo..... Ya know pot meet kettle and all.
 
Dubbington said:
Wait, Niners got beat? Really?

Clearly there are numerous wait to get beat, win, and lose a game. Niners lost the game, I don't feel they got beat per se.

Also, HOW they got beat is what I'm concerned about not simply the fact they did. Some ways can be corrected, other ways are indicative of a larger problem.

The fact Rams and Cards are undefeated, despite only 3 games in, could be a concern. It mean Niners need to shoot for wild card unless they string some wins together and Cards and Rams start losing.

From the looks of things, Niners don't have the secondary to stop good QBs and the running game to keep the clock ticking. Both were evident in yesterdays loss.

Shanny needs to pass more and have Kittle block less. Kittle can't be the deep receiver threat either BUT he's likely the only one Shanny trusts which is a problem.
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:laughing Yeah, the 49ers didn't lose, they got beat, semantics notwithstanding.

But ok, it must be the end of the world after week 3.
 
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